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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On your first point, that is a rather circuitous justification that, in my opinion, reads as an attempt to disguise what is actually happening. The bottom line
is that, while the EC would strive for consensus, if it is not possible, the EC will make decisions based on the “votes” of individual decisional participants.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On your second point, the statements say that the we are “Maintaining the advisory role of governments in the SO and AC structure” and “Maintaining the advisory
role of governments in the SO and AC structure, including the GAC.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Those statements are not accurate. We are changing the role of governments in the SO AC structure by allowing them to participate in the EC. We are also changing
the way the Board treats GAC consensus advice. I would not think that anyone would disagree with either of those two conclusions. Whether we are expanding the influence of governments is open to debate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I firmly believe that this proposal as the best compromise that the community could support. But I think we should be forthright in what we are proposing.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Brett
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<span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; ">Brett</span><span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; "></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2016 9:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: FW: CCWG - recs 1,2 and 11<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 01:18:11PM +0000, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
> <br>
> In fact, the decisional model does expressly contemplate voting, i.e. tallying support or opposition among the decisional participants with specified thresholds, to climb the escalation ladder and exercise community powers.<br>
> <br>
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I am really leery of having a discussion in which we parse the<br>
meanings of "consensus" and "voting", but I think there is at least an<br>
open argument that the escalation ladder and so on amounts to a way to<br>
determine community consensus. Moreover, the specification of<br>
thesholds are, after all, of the constituent SOs and ACs rather than<br>
of individual voters. Having already long ago decided that decision<br>
making in ICANN would be along constituency-defined lines (rather than<br>
the unitary "community" that we see in, say, the IETF), it seems<br>
self-evident that one needs a way to ensure that one interest group<br>
can't block everyone else. So regardless of whether one thinks that<br>
this is some form of voting, it's still a mechanism to find consensus.<br>
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> Moreover, the GAC is now a participant in the Empowered Community (albeit with the carve out) and the advisory role has been altered, not maintained, by defining GAC consensus and elevating the Board threshold to reject GAC consensus advice to 60 percent.
These are significant changes.<br>
> <br>
<br>
But there is a difference between "letting governments participate"<br>
and "letting governments decide". The proposal does the former -- I<br>
think correctly, because they too are part of the global community.<br>
It does not do the latter -- again, correctly, and in line with the<br>
NTIA criteria.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
<br>
A<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Andrew Sullivan<br>
<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a><br>
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