<p dir="ltr">Hi Becky,</p>
<p dir="ltr">FWIW, what you indicate below has been the understanding since the concern was raised by Bruce. Steve has also just reiterate the view as well.<br>
However, let it be on record that others(including myself) have always raised similar concern, which even predates Bruce&#39;s comment.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I have no idea what the goal of some in this process is anymore. If indeed the goal is to have an all inclusive and balanced MS that keeps the board accountable, then I don&#39;t think it should be difficult for anyone to be convinced that having 3 out of 7 SO/AC(yes because ICANN has more than 7 *distinct* community by structure) spill the entire board of an organisation like ICANN is not the right thing to do. </p>
<p dir="ltr">It&#39;s so painful that a few participants in the CCWG have become quite vocal in this process in a manner that tends towards intimidating others. It is my hope that the co-chairs will be careful to identify distinct views among the pool of traffic.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 Feb 2016 7:56 p.m., &quot;Burr, Becky&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:15 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>&#39;Phil Corwin&#39; &lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt;, Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;, Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2016 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Carve-out issue<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Assuming that the new Board position is indeed a response to a minority position of a few GAC members, I am in full agreement that it “should serve
 as a warning to us all”. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Indeed, it emphasizes exactly why the GAC should not be able to block the community’s ability to hold the Board accountable for implementing GAC consensus
 advice that the community feels is outside the scope of the Bylaws or Mission Statement.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2016 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Carve-out issue<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">The carve-out is balanced against the concerns of other stakeholders with regard to (i) the proposed supermajority threshold for Board rejection of GAC advice and (ii) the GAC&#39;s overall role
 as a decisional participant in the Empowered Community, rather than its traditional advisory capacity.  The carve-out itself underwent a compromise, requiring the Community to go through an IRP before exercising the power of Board recall.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I think this extraordinary response to a minority report should serve as a warning to us all.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2016-02-19 18:10 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps it was hoped that the people could join the consensus but it does not come up as such<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If a mistake has occurred we should repair it .<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Howmany times we have changed our concept from Voluntry Model to Sole member from Sole Member to Sole designator .<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">THE ISSUE IS CRITICAL <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pls do not rush to publish the report as being sent to the chartering organization just hold on for few more days untill your 26 feb. calls<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Try to find out some solution including going back to the initial stage of REC. 11 without no carve-out and with two options of simple majority and 2/3 theshold  and rediscuss that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can not ignor the growing concerns of several governments and would certainly be further grown up soon<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Kavouss <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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