<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div>Have we ever received a consensus objection or some form of wholesome proposal reflecting the full breath of membership of the other constituencies I think we need to reflect and forward correctly .</div><div>Who knows till end of ICANN 55 howmany objections will be tableed?</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-19 19:23 GMT+01:00 Schaefer, Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2016 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Carve-out issue<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear All,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">There is big difference between providing the rights for GAC as decisional making entity and to exercise those rights</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">GAC has not decided on whether they wish to exercise that right or not,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Supermajority and reconsideration of rejected Recommendation of other constituencies and rejection of GAC Advice should have the same threshold
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If ONE GETS THE BENEF OF 2/3 MAJORITY the other should ALSO have the same. BENEFIT
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If GAC advice could be rejected by the Board with simple Majority the Recommendation of other entities SHOULD also be rejected by simple majority.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If the Board gets into negotiation with GAC after it has rejected its advice, they also get into negotiation with other constituencies if their Recommendations were rejected .</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Currently there is a full imbalance between the PDP Recommendations treatments and GAC advice</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The PDP Recommendations developed by supermajority in some constituencies or by so-called SOFT CONSENSUS could only be rejected by the Board with 2/3 MAJORITY BUT GAC advice ,normally decided by consensus
could only be rejected by SIMPLE MAJORITY </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">This is unfair.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">However, after rejection with such an imbalance criteria both cases could be negotiated by Board and the two constituencies.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I do not agree with the argument submitted with the risk that those people submitting such argument may disserve the ethic of correspondence and going out of the limit and not observing mutual
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Kavouss </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2016-02-19 18:51 GMT+01:00 Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Assuming that the new Board position is indeed a response to a minority position of a few GAC members,
I am in full agreement that it “should serve as a warning to us all”. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Indeed, it emphasizes exactly why the GAC should not be able to block the community’s ability to
hold the Board accountable for implementing GAC consensus advice that the community feels is outside the scope of the Bylaws or Mission Statement.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Best. Philip</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2016 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh<br>
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accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Carve-out issue</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It is alarming that a few GAC members could seek to undo a carefully balanced compromise. And even more alarming that those few
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The carve-out is balanced against the concerns of other stakeholders with regard to (i) the proposed supermajority threshold for
Board rejection of GAC advice and (ii) the GAC's overall role as a decisional participant in the Empowered Community, rather than its traditional advisory capacity. The carve-out itself underwent a compromise, requiring the Community to go through an IRP
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Do other stakeholders need to send countervailing warnings? Will the Board respond as quickly? Do we want to find out?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I think this extraordinary response to a minority report should serve as a warning to us all.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2016-02-19 18:10 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is an ALARMING SITUATION ,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is no consensus means there is no consensus ,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We could not favour one community in disfavouring another one.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps it was hoped that the people could join the consensus but it does not come up as such<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If a mistake has occurred we should repair it .<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Howmany times we have changed our concept from Voluntry Model to Sole member from Sole Member to Sole designator .<u></u><u></u></p>
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