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Agree James.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2016 10:11 AM, James Gannon
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<div>My views on the fact that we need to move forward are on
the record so I am not going to go back and re-debate that
but I do feel the need to point out that sending multiple
options to NTIA is not an option and I believe (Others with
encyclopaedic memories will likely point to the source) that
NTIA have publicly stated they expect a single solution to
come to them for analysis.</div>
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<div>I feel that if we don’t move forward on this soon we will
lose much of the credibility that we have build over the last 18
months in CWG and CCWG, we are constructing our own potential
failure here, let us not do that and move forward with the
carefully constructed proposal that we have built, a proposal
that no-one is happy with, which should be a sign to all parties
that this is a hard won compromise that balances on a needle in
terms of acceptability to all involved.</div>
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<div>-jg</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Sunday 21
February 2016 at 10:05 a.m.<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Mathieu Weill <<a
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León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>CCWG Accountability
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CCWG-ACCT] A message from the Co-Chairs<br>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">Dear Co-Chairs</font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">The number
Governments expressing /manifesting serious concerns
on the three Recommendations, 1, 2 and mainly 11 is
growing. Now 12 countries have formally manifest
their objections</font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">These concerns are
focused on the manner the CCWG attempting to treat
GAC in an imbalance manner with respect to other
ICANN Constituencies .The CCWG Co- Chairs are urged
to explore all ways and means to <span> </span>adequately
respond to these growing serious concerns taking
into account the long standing principle of
universality ,fairness and equal treatments of all
Multistakeholders communities in an inclusive,
transparent and democratic manner</font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">We are members of one
family , ICANN Family , and thus deserve to be
<span> </span>properly, equally and fairly treated </font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">There are still
opportunity /opportunities to remedy the cause of
these concerns</font></span></p>
<ol style="list-style-type:decimal;direction:ltr">
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<p
style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"
lang="EN-US">We may go back to call 80 on Rec 11
with two options of Simple Majority and 2/3 FOR
THE REJECTION OF GAC ADVICE BY THE BOARD and try
to further discus that in removing the famous
so-called Carve-Out which is the <span> </span>main
cause of some ,if not all ,of these concerns <span>
</span>.</span></p>
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<li
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<p
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"
lang="EN-US">Two <span> </span>address the
threshold of 4 SO/AC required to recall the entire
Board in all cases or at least for cases in which
IRP is not available</span></p>
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<li
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<p
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"
lang="EN-US">Apply the Carve-out all SOs/ACs or to
all ACs Treat and still discuss the threshold of 4
SOs / ACs for the removal of the entire Board</span></p>
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<li
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<p
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color="#ff0000"><strong><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"
lang="EN-US">Should you not succeed to find
compromise then submit multiple options to
NTIA?</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span></strong></font></p>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt 18pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">Irrespective of that
amend Annexes 1 and 2 in regard with the adjustments
of the threshold if the No. of SOS &ACs changed
in either direction and exempt the Board Recall for
that threshold </font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt 18pt"><span
style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"><font
color="#000000" face="Calibri">Kavouss
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-21 9:01 GMT+01:00 <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div name="messageBodySection">I agree with Ed
Morris' request (not with his agreement :-)-O),
but would then also like to reopen Sole Membership
up revisiting.<br>
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In any case let me place the current state on the
record:<br>
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Our proposal is so complicated that we do not
understand it ourselves, or (rather) remember what
we agreed on a week ago exactly.<br>
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But the negotiation tactics of Board and GAC have
us worn down so that it doesn't matter what we
agreed upon, just ship something (anything rather)
and be done with it.<br>
<br>
These are well known, classical negotiation
tactics, by experienced professional negotiators,
dealing with multilateral negotiations for a
living.<br>
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Besides that, I put the blame for this straight at
the dysfunctional (and very quiet) co-chairs who,
I feel, should have some form of recall of what we
had Consensus on (not Full Consensus :-)-O) a week
ago, and put the foot down about these tactics,
for example have the Board members participating
object and add minority statement.<br>
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In any case, if we are going the route of
reopening our Final Report to anything but
increasing Consensus, I demand the right to update
my Minority Statement and we need a new time line.<br>
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Come to think about it, write it up, add that we
have no Consensus, but that this is what we got by
way of self imposed time lime, and let the
Chartering Organizations sort out this mess.<br>
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el</div>
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On 21 Feb 2016, 02:33 +0200, Edward Morris <<a
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- with the additional caveat that if the
compromise we have is to be extinguished,
those of us who were willing to agree to
the carve out rather than insist that the
GAC make a choice between advisor and
participant are free to return to our
former positions. </span></div>
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