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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Becky<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you very much again for your further clarifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I feel these are very useful for colleagues (both within the CCWG and the GAC) who still are unclear on key aspects of
the carve-out proposal, and who might want to participate in future –such as tomorrow’s- discussion on the topic.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For instance, today I have read at least three different emails from (usually) very well-informed people who
<u>linked the carve-out only to Board decisions implementing GAC Advice, <b>where the Board decision would be deemed inconsistent with the Bylaws</b></u>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Now we know, that, although you estimate that 99.9% of the cases would fit that description,
<b><u>the carve-out rule as spelled out makes no such linkage or provision, and, therefore, the carve-out applies generally, with no condition of Bylaws inconsistency</u></b>. Hence, the carve-out applies also when there exists only a difference of opinion
between the GAC and other SO/ACs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Today I have also received a question asking me whether the GAC would be the only SO/AC affected by such a carve-out rule
and <u>whether all other SO/AC would be able to participate on the two tracks without any limitation</u>, even when, for instance, a Board decision is deemed inconsistent with the Bylaws and is based on the recommendation and/or advice of that SO/AC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Now we also have confirmation that this is a GAC-rule only, and that all other SO/ACs will have full participation
on both tracks</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m just putting this in writing for the sake of greater clarity and to avoid that obvious aspects of this proposal stay
unclear for those who have not the ability of following this debate as closely as others, but who may have the chance of reading this exchange.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I hope you might indulge this…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-c</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ommunity-bounces@icann.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 22. Februar 2016 15:22<br>
<b>An:</b> Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] further responses to ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Dear Becky<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Thank you very much for your replies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">However, I feel we should separate intentions from facts in such replies and/or clarifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">In this regard, although only 0.1% (in your estimation) of the instances the carve-out would apply are those where the Board decision is consistent with the Bylaws, the fact
is that the carve-out rule makes no such distinction, correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue">Correct, that distinction is not made in the context of any of the community powers and was not made in the GAC carve-out context until the Board’s recent intervention.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">As to the participation of any other SO and AC on both tracks, I kindly asked to confirm a fact (that any other SO or AC may fully participate, with the only exception pf the
GAC). I infer that you are confirming it, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue">Yes, I think that’s perfectly obvious Jorge. </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">(Reasons for doing so are something different and have been discussed and no full agreement found to date if I dare say so.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">thanks again and regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Jorge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Von meinem iPhone gesendet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Am 22.02.2016 um 14:54 schrieb Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a><<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz%3e">mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz></a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">J. Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#262626">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Cancio Jorge BAKOM
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 22. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Februar 2016 15:09<br>
<b>An:</b> Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr@neustar.biz><br>
<b>Cc:</b> kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com; steve.crocker@icann.org; icann-board@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Becky<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you very much for your replies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">However, I feel we should separate intentions from facts in such replies and/or clarifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In this regard, although only 0.1% (in your estimation) of the instances the carve-out would apply are those where the Board decision is consistent with the Bylaws, the fact is that the carve-out rule makes no such distinction,
correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As to the participation of any other SO and AC on both tracks, I kindly asked to confirm a fact (that any other SO or AC may fully participate, with the only exception pf the GAC). I infer that you are confirming it,
right? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">(Reasons for doing so are something different and have been discussed and no full agreement found to date if I dare say so.)<br>
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</span>thanks again and regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jorge<br>
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Von meinem iPhone gesendet<o:p></o:p></p>
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Am 22.02.2016 um 14:54 schrieb Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Responses in line<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">J. Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#262626">
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1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20006</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:gray"><br>
</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#008656">Office:</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#7D7D7D">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"><span lang="EN-US">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"><span lang="EN-US">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz"><span lang="EN-US">becky.burr@neustar.biz</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Kavouss Arasteh <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
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Accountability Community <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>AW: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear Kavouss, dear Becky</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks so much!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">From the responses I received, it seems that the carve-out applies generally whenever there is a Board decision to implement GAC Advice, even when
that Board decision is deemed by the IRP to be perfectly consistent with ICANN Bylaws.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hence, we should be clear that there is no relation between the carve-out and the consistency with the Bylaws, right? Reasons for bringing such a
challenge can be purely based on different interests, right?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:blue">No, the carve out reflects the principle that we have discussed at great length. The GAC should not have the authority BOTH to force the Board to the negotiating table at any time over any issues
and to block community challenge of the results of those Board/GAC negotiations. The status of GAC Advice differentiates it from any other kind of advice. I suspect that 99.9% of the time that challenge will involve an alleged bylaws violations, but maybe
not.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It is just a rule that excludes the GAC from (a decisional role in) any community decision where a Board decision to implement GAC Advice is at stake.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:blue">Correct, it bars the GAC from participating as a decision-maker in a discussion of a decision to use one of the community powers in that situation.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A further question: if such a Board decision is based both on a SO recommendation, an ALAC advice and a GAC Advice, the only entity to be excluded
from a community process would be the GAC, right? But the other SO and AC would participate on both tracks, correct?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:blue">I’ve provided my views on this several times Jorge. Please refer to my email about why GAC Advice is different from a PDP.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue"> </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As to the threshold question: it merely has to do with the Board recall, but does not affect any of the mentioned characteristics of the carve-out,
correct?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:blue">The Boards concern is only about lowering the threshold to 3 in the context of Board recall.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks very much for any further guidance</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jorge
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Burr, Becky [<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 22. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Februar 2016 14:00<br>
<b>An:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"><span lang="EN-US">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>;
</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">;
</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">icann-board@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">;
</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Jorge-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The carve out would apply but you would need 4 SO/AC s to recall the Board.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Becky</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">J. Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#3366FF"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, February 22, 2016 at 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Kavouss Arasteh <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">icann-board@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">icann-board@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Accountability Community <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear Kavouss</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the clarification.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hence, do I understand correctly that the carve-out (exclusion of GAC as decisional participant) applies also if the Board decision to implement
GAC Advice has been found by the IRP to be perfectly consistent with the Bylaws?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for your guidance</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jorge
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Kavouss Arasteh [<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 22. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Februar 2016 12:41<br>
<b>An:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"><span lang="EN-US">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mueller, Milton L <</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"><span lang="EN-US">milton@gatech.edu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>;
Steve Crocker <</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>;
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Icann-board ICANN <</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US">icann-board@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Dear Jorge,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">You are right <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The carve out applies to all cases either in application of IRP or in the absence of IRP
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">For the first Board's agreed with reduced threshold from 4 to 3 for Board's Spill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">For the second the Board wishes that the 4 SO/AC threshold applies .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Some people in the community like me fully supportting the Board's views.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Some others are against<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">This is one of the issue that must be resolved tomorrow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH" style="color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH" style="color:black">Kavouss <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH" style="color:black">2016-02-22 12:25 GMT+01:00 <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank"><span lang="FR-CH">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</span></a></span><span lang="FR-CH" style="color:black">>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Dear all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From this email by Milton it seems that some (as Milton) are understanding that the carve-out only would apply if the Board decision to implement GAC Advice is found (by the IRP I guess) to be inconsistent with the
Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I have been away for one week, but I feel that the carve-out was meant to apply
<b>generally</b> to situations where there is Board implementation of GAC Advice...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Could someone kindly clarify the status?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Jorge <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="color:black">-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] Im Auftrag von Mueller, Milton L<br>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Februar 2016 23:34<br>
An: Steve Crocker <</span><span lang="DE" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:steve.crocker@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">steve.crocker@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">>; Accountability Community <</span><span lang="DE" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">><br>
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Betreff: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The GAC made me do it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I think Andrew got the issue exactly right. I do not see how your answer even engages with his argument, which is that nearly all of the community has agreed that when board actions are challenged for being out of mission
by following GAC advice, that the GAC should not be in a position to rule on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Claiming that the GAC does not have "extraordinary power" does not answer Andrew's argument. Whether the GAC has extraordinary power or not, if it advises you (the board) to do something that the rest of the community
thinks is outside of the bounds of the bylaws (which it has a demonstrated tendency to do) the GAC should not be a decisional member of the empowered community that decides whether we get to challenge that action.
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From that premise on, it is all arithmetic, as Andrew showed:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > This is a choice entirely within the GAC's power. It must choose.
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > If it chooses to be board-advisor-GAC, then it is in effect choosing
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > that it prefers that mode of operation to being part of the wider
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > Empowered Community mechanism. In effect, a GAC choice can reduce
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > the possible actors in the Empowered Community to four. Otherwise,
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > the GAC is in a position to insist on advice it gave being
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > considered first by the board, and then that the GAC can also
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > participate in the judgement of the Board's actions. That's the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > very "two bites" problem that we were trying to solve. I believe
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > that in most organizations (including many governments), it would be
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">> > regarded as surprising that a participant in the to-be-judged action also gets to be one of the judges.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">You have not refuted this, as I said before you have not even engaged with this.
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">This increases my suspicion that the board's position is based on a political calculus, not on good governance or accountability criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Further, it is clear from the reaction you have gotten that the board is not proposing a "friendly amendment." In these rules of procedure, a friendly amendment has to be accepted by the group that proposed it, and
clearly it is not. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I am deeply disturbed by the board upsetting a consensual compromise, and a very difficult one, for the third time in this process. I wonder if you have any appreciation of the potential costs of this, particularly
when it involves an issue as sensitive as the role of national governments in ICANN.
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Dr. Milton L. Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Professor, School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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