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<div>As long as the “hardening” is a theory and we need statistics to indicate it is there, I think we should not worry too much about the problem in practice</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>dinsdag 23 februari 2016 18:27<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Confusion and my position<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've just done a "distribution analysis" (not as grand as it sounds) of the 4 polls, and I tend to disagree with Andrew's hardening theory (or at least, I don't agree completely). </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've posted this in the thread where the poll results were announced. You will see that 10 of the 11 participating structures had members who supported removing clause (2). That seems like
a coming together in this particular instance.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Aside from the poll, I did see some unfortunate hardening of positions and hardening of divisions. I would like to encourage the members and participants to support the final result of our work
whatever it may be. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would also like to encourage the Members to reconsider submitting Minority Statements. Unified support will speak volumes as this progresses. There are parts of this final Proposal I am not
happy with. There are battles that were fought and lost, and consensus-building compromises that make me queasy; I believe other members of my stakeholder structure (IPC) would tend to agree. If I were so inclined (and if I were a Member or my structure
had a Member able to speak for my structure alone) I could stand our ground (or lick our wounds) in a Minority Statement. Philosophically, that's not my style. The corollary to "Nothing's agreed until everything's agreed" is "Once everything's agreed, everything's
agreed." We have to decide which battles to pick and which battles to win, and which exchanges of views to categorize as battles in the first place. In this case, I think the battles we need to win will be best fought with a unified front.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Sullivan <span dir="ltr">
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 05:28:49AM +1300, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
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> I look forward to us moving on, getting this report out, getting CO<br>
> agreement, and getting on with implementation.<br>
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</span>I do too, but I confess I'm a little concerned in reading the poll<br>
results. To the extent I see a pattern, it is of hardening divisions<br>
between people from different constituencies. As I've said, I can<br>
support whatever consensus emerges (though like Becky, I think the<br>
arguments for one of these positions are quite clearly stronger than<br>
for the other one); but at the moment, I have no idea what consensus<br>
might emerge. I really urge people to find a way at least not to<br>
object to some stable outcome.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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A<br>
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