<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">By my reading, the GAC position completely sidesteps the issue of whether they will participate as a &quot;decisional participant&quot; (i.e., whether they will be counted one way or the other when a decision must be made).  Am I misreading this?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Jordan Carter <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all<div><br></div><div>In three versions of the proposal from this group the GAC has been a decisional participant. I firmly agree with what Thomas said, that is what our proposal says and that is how it has to remain.</div><div><br></div><div>We haven&#39;t demanded any SO/AC has to say they are in. We have just said that we take them out if they insist.</div><div><br></div><div>Anything else would be an utter travesty at this point and undermine our process.</div><div><br></div><div>On the point raised by the letter that started this thread, I only re-state my view that IF the list of decisional participants changed, THEN the thresholds would have to change, BECAUSE we cannot have a situation where formal total unanimity is required to exercise community powers.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 March 2016 at 07:27, Robin Gross <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Unless the GAC can reach a consensus and decide to be “in&quot; the EC, it would have to be considered “out” of the EC.  If GAC can’t decide to accept this new role and its responsibility, we have no place on insisting that it does accept this change in its role and responsibility.  We can’t leave loose ends like this in our report without expecting disastrous results - we must have certainty about what we are proposing.<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span><font color="#888888">Robin</font></span><div><div><br><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Phil Corwin &lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">+1. The GAC needs to decide whether they want to be in or out of the EC, and the decision time is now.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If the GAC can’t reach a consensus on something that basic then trying to use the accountability measures with them in the EC will be like trying to drive a car with the parking brake engaged.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:navy">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:navy">Virtualaw LLC</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:navy">1155 F Street, NW</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;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 style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">My understanding is that all 3 SOs are part of the empowered community, as is ALAC. My understanding is that GAC has not decided whether it is in or out. But once it does decide, it should be in or out, full stop, for all cases except the narrow carve out related to GAC advice.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If the individual entities who are in the EC (ACs and SOs) do not support a vote to spill the board, reject an IANA review decision, etc. they are voting against it, full stop. They are not “unable to cast a vote.” So a lower threshold never means that there is a chance that one SO or AC can make the decision. The threshold only changes based on whether GAC is in or out.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">--MM<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Martin Boyle<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Sunday, February 28, 2016 3:09 PM</span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Kavouss makes a good point:  if views are so divided in the SO/ACs that many are not able to cast a vote, there is an indication that something is wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span>[</span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Kavouss Arasteh<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>28 February 2016 17:32<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Bruce Tonkin &lt;</span><a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB">Bruce<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB">Accruing to some established rule ,out if seven SO/AC, the minimum would be simple majority ( 4) bellow that the process does have no longer any legal validity<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB">Ksvouss <br><br>Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>On 28 Feb 2016, at 00:02, Bruce Tonkin &lt;</span><a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-GB">&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hello Keith,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I assume there also needs to be some lower limit of participants that applies to the concept of “</span><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">preventing the need for unanimous support”.</span></i><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Taking an extreme case,  what if only one SO or AC “chooses” to be part of the decisional process?   Every decision taken would be unanimous by default.  </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">How many participants of the 7 SOs and ACs makes a viable Empowered Community?  Should it be 2, 3, or 4.   I hope we get at least 4 out of 7 for it  to genuinely represent a significant portion of the community.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So rather than “If fewer than 5”, it could be “If at least 4”</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Bruce Tonkin</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><a name="-591019248_681655860__MailEndCompose"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></a><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span>[</span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Drazek, Keith<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Sunday, 28 February 2016 7:04 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB"> <u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Thomas, Mathieu and Leon. I’m submitting the following on behalf of the undersigned members/participants from the GNSO:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">---------------------------------------------</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear CCWG-Accountability Chairs,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We are very concerned with the response of the Board to the request for clarification regarding the need to adjust the thresholds for the Empowered Community to exercise its powers if the number of decisional participants is less than 5 SOACs. Currently the text in Annex 1 and 2 regarding this possibility is ambiguous:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;text-indent:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">“The thresholds presented in this document were determined based on this assessment. If fewer than five of ICANN’s SOs and ACs agree to be decisional Participants, these thresholds for consensus support may be adjusted. Thresholds may also have to be adjusted if ICANN changes to have more SOs or ACs.”</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In our view, there is no question that the thresholds<span> </span><i>must</i><span> </span>be adjusted if there are fewer than five decisional participants. We have acknowledged repeatedly and operated under the assumption that there should not be a requirement of unanimous support for the Empowered Community to exercise its powers. Yet, if there are less than five decisional participants, unless the thresholds are adjusted it would require unanimous support for the Empowered Community to:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt">        <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Reject a proposed Operating Plan/Strategic Plan/Budget;</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt">        <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Recall the entire Board of Directors; and</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt">        <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Reject an ICANN Board decision relating to reviews of IANA functions, including the triggering of any PTI separation process.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">These powers are central to ensuring that ICANN remains accountable to the Empowered Community. This matter is too critical to the primary purpose of the CCWG-Accountability proposal to remain unclear. As the Board has noted in its own formal comments, “Leaving this issue for future consideration raises the potential for renegotiation of the community thresholds.  This potential for renegotiation adds a level of instability and a lack of predictability.”</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Although it has a superficial resemblance to the recent debate over thresholds in the GAC carve-out, we believe it is fundamentally different. There is a great distinction between an SO or AC<span> </span><b><i>choosing</i></b><span> </span>to not participate, and an SO or AC being<span> </span><b><i>blocked</i></b><span> </span>from participation in a specific instance, as was the case in the case of the GAC carve-out. We were willing to accept a unanimous threshold for Board recall in the unique circumstances of the GAC carve-out, where the GAC was blocked from participation, but we believe firmly that if any SO or AC<span> </span><b><i>elects</i></b>, whether through a conscious decision or an inability to decide, to not participate, then the non-unanimity principle must be upheld.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">However, as we saw with the debate over the thresholds in the GAC carve-out, this could be a contentious issue. It is far better to resolve this matter now (and during the drafting of bylaws), prior to the official transfer of the proposal to NTIA, than to delay it when it could have significant negative ramifications on the transition through a failure to resolve it during the implementation phase.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Therefore, we respectfully request that the current text in Annex 1 and Annex 2 be edited to replace “may” with “shall” and add an additional explanatory clause:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">“The thresholds presented in this document were determined based on this assessment. If fewer than five of ICANN’s SOs and ACs agree to be decisional Participants, these thresholds for consensus support<span> </span></span><b><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:red">shall</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:red"><span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">be adjusted<span> </span></span><b><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:red">to prevent the need for unanimous support among the decisional Participants to exercise any of the seven Community powers</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">. Thresholds may also have to be adjusted if ICANN changes to have more SOs or ACs.”</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Signed,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Phil Corwin</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Steve DelBianco</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Keith Drazek</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">James Gannon</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Robin Gross</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ed Morris</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Brett Schaefer</span><span lang=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