<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Brett</div><div>I am protective of all So7AC.</div><div>You misunderstood me totally.</div><div>Everybody wants to decide on whether or not GAC participate in decision making</div><div>I simply said we do not know yet. Leave it to them to decide and be patient.</div><div>It is not the time to talk whether we would have 5 or 4 SO/AC.</div><div>Please then kindly do not put any words in my mouth.</div><div>Tks being so kind and read the text as it was.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-03-01 19:48 GMT+01:00 Schaefer, Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Avri,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I have been paying attention to the overall discussion, but I have paid particularly close attention to this issue. After multiple, lengthy discussions, I thought
that we had agreed that it was up to the GAC to decide to be in or out. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I thought that THAT was the compromise, not that the GAC was in by default, but could choose to be out. If this had been made clear, I would have been very
vocal in opposing it. The text on this issue in the final CCWG-Accountability report is ambiguous:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">99. Implementation of the Empowered Community currently anticipates that all of ICANN’s SOs, the ALAC and GAC (if the GAC chooses to
participate) would participate in the Empowered Community – that is, they will be listed in the Bylaws as the five Decisional Participants.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I read that as GAC participation was dependent on an affirmative GAC decision to participate. Most apparently disagree with this interpretation.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I know that most of the CCWG-Accountability is ready to move on, but I hope the implications – that the practical ability of the EC to actually exercise its
powers will be much harder with a habitually indecisive GAC as a participant – are widely understood.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Brett
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avri Doria<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
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I thought doing it this way was one of the earlier compromises in this<br>
extended end game.<br>
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avri<br>
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On 01-Mar-16 11:37, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
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> Kavouss,<br>
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> <br>
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> I am mildly surprised that you, as someone who has been very<br>
> protective of the right of the GAC to make its own decisions, is not<br>
> upset with the determination by the CCWG to make GAC a decisional<br>
> participant by default before it has actually made this decision for<br>
> itself.<br>
><br>
> <br>
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> Best,<br>
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> <br>
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> Brett<br>
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> <br>
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> *From:*<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf<br>
> Of *Kavouss Arasteh<br>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:28 AM<br>
> *To:* Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue<br>
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> <br>
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> Dear All,<br>
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> Yo are too worried about something that we still do not know how it<br>
> happens<br>
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> The text approriate and clearly mention that if the No of Decision<br>
> Making SO and AC changed the threshold should be adjusted<br>
><br>
> That is more than sufficient.<br>
><br>
> People need to refrain concentrating/ focussing on a particular AC nor<br>
> envisage all possible senarios.<br>
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> We are not wtritting Bylaws at this stage .<br>
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> There is ample time and competent individuals to look at the matter<br>
> once happened.<br>
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> Let us discontinue this counterproductive discussion<br>
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> Regards<br>
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> Kavouss <br>
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> <br>
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> 2016-03-01 16:32 GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu%0b" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu<br>
</a>> <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">mailto:milton@gatech.edu</a>>>:<br>
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> <br>
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> <br>
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> *From:*Jordan Carter [<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz%0b%3e%20%3cmailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz%3e" target="_blank">mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz<br>
> <mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz></a>]<br>
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> Sorry, wrong. The assumption has been made and it is the same as the<br>
> assumption that was made in the Third, Second and First Draft Reports.<br>
> GAC is going to be listed in the fundamental bylaws as a decisional<br>
> participant in the Empowered Community. <br>
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> <br>
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> Huh? See below<br>
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> <br>
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> The only way that could change would be if GAC advised it did not wish<br>
> to do so. Same with any other group.<br>
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> <br>
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> Which they haven’t done yet. Ergo, my statement below was correct.<br>
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> <br>
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> <br>
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> On 1 March 2016 at 13:16, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu%0b" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu<br>
</a>> <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">mailto:milton@gatech.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> Whether one agrees with Brett or not, the fact remains that GAC<br>
> has explicitly told us that it is _/undecided/_ on whether to be a<br>
> decisional participant or not. Therefore, until we get a positive<br>
> decision from them, we cannot assume that they will be by default.<br>
> Greg S. was saying essentially the same thing:<br>
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