<p dir="ltr">But ending with "...such authority.." Implies that ICANN does not have authority to regulate, irrespective of if it's governmental or not. No idea why it needs be specific to government and not be generic enough to cover all (as I understand is the intent of the proposed edit).</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 May 2016 20:02, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This version fails to take into account my comment of May 9, which I will copy and paste here for ease of reference. Simply put, the Recommendation in this draft (as in the first draft) is not what we agreed to in the meeting. It also fails to solve the problem. Please correct the Comment as set forth below in blue. Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">There's a problem with the recommendation for Section 1.1(c). Specifically, the "Recommendation" is incorrect (based on both the "Issue" stated just above it and the call we had last week). The decision of the group was to eliminate the second clause (beginning with "and nothing..."), leaving only the first clause "For the avoidance of doubt, ICANN does not hold any governmentally authorized regulatory authority." The proposed Recommendation gets this almost exactly backward, deleting the first clause and leaving the second. This needs to be fixed as set forth below.<br><br>Currently the section reads as follows:<br><br>1. Draft Bylaws section 1.1 (c)<br>1.1. Text from the Bylaws: “ICANN shall not regulate (i.e., impose rules and restrictions on) services that use the Internet’s unique identifiers or the content that such services carry or provide, outside the express scope of Section 1.1(a). For the avoidance of doubt, ICANN does not hold any governmentally authorized regulatory authority, and nothing in the preceding sentence should be construed to suggest that it does have authority to impose such regulations.”<br>1.2. Issue: The last clause of the last sentence: "nothing in the preceding sentence should be construed to suggest that it does have authority to impose such regulations" Appears to create some ambiguity.<br>1.3. Recommendation: Remove this clause and end the sentence with "authority." The text would now read: “ICANN shall not regulate (i.e., impose rules and restrictions on) services that use the Internet’s unique identifiers or the content that such services carry or provide, outside the express scope of Section 1.1(a). For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in the preceding sentence should be construed to suggest that ICANN does have such authority.”<br><br>Instead, the Recommendation should be changed to read as follows:<br><br><font color="#0000ff">1.3. Recommendation: Remove this clause and end the sentence with "authority." The text would now read: “ICANN shall not regulate (i.e., impose rules and restrictions on) services that use the Internet’s unique identifiers or the content that such services carry or provide, outside the express scope of Section 1.1(a). For the avoidance of doubt, ICANN does not hold any governmentally authorized regulatory authority.”</font></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Bernard Turcotte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Please find attached V2.0 of the CCWG-Accountability comments to be submitted to the ICANN public consultation on the New Bylaws.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Modifications since V1.0 was circulated (There is no red-line comparison as too many things have changed. Rather we are providing a high level summary of changes here and are providing both versions V1.0 and 2.0 for ease of comparison):</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><ul><li>V1.0 items 9 and 10 have been removed following consideration of legal counsel advice.</li><ul><li>9.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Draft Bylaws Annex D Section 1.4(b)<br></li><li>10.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Draft Bylaws Annex D Section 2.2 (c) (i) (A)<br></li></ul><li>V2.0 new item 9 is - Draft Bylaws Section 1.2(b)(viii) which was in the initial comments but not included in V1.0</li><li>V2.0 new items 10 to 14. These are a selection by the leadership from the list of issues submitted by Alan Greenberg this past weekend</li><ul><li>10. Draft Bylaws Section 7.12 (b)<br></li><li>11. Draft Bylaws Section 4.6(b)(ii)<br></li><li><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="color:black">12.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">Draft Bylaws Section 7.4(d)</span></p></li><li><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="color:black"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="color:black">13.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">Draft Bylaws Section 7.11(a)(i)(B)</span></p></li><li><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><font color="#000000">14. Draft Bylaws Annex D, Section 1.4(b)(i-ii)</font><br></p></li></ul><li><font color="#000000">V2.0 New - Conclusion - short recap of Introduction</font></li></ul><div><font color="#000000">The Final Feedback period is only intended to provide the CCWG-Accountability participants the opportunity to confirm there are no significant issues or gaps in this version and is not intended as an opportunity to raise new issues.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">The Feedback period will begin 20:00UTC today Wednesday May 11th and close 20:00UTC Thursday May 12th.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Please reply to the list using the Subject line of this message to facilitate identifying your input (or simply REPLY to this email).</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">The objective of the leadership is to finalize these and submit them before the weekend.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Documents attached.</font></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Bernard Turcotte</font></div><div><font color="#000000">ICANN Staff Support for the CCWG-Accountability Co-Chairs - Mathieu Weill, Thomas Rickert, Leon Sanchez</font></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div></div>
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