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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/13/2016 1:04 PM, James Gannon
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<div>I agree</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday 13 May
2016 at 13:01<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CCWG-ACCT] [bylaws-coord] Lawyers Comments and Concerns re
CCWG Comment - Version 2<br>
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<div>My understanding too<br>
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<div>León</div>
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El may 13, 2016, a las 2:37 AM, Thomas Rickert <<a
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<div>That is my understanding, yes!
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<div class="">Am 13.05.2016 um 08:37 schrieb
Mathieu Weill <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="" lang="EN-US">So, to be
clear, what is requested here is to add
the following sentence at the end of item
2.3 :<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="" lang="EN-US">As a
consequence, our group’s recommendation is
to remove provisions B, C, D and E of
Section 1.1 (d)(ii).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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125);" class="" lang="EN-US">Is that
correct ?<span
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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class="">De :</span></b><span
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Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bylaws-coord-bounces@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bylaws-coord-bounces@icann.org">bylaws-coord-bounces@icann.org</a></a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
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style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bylaws-coord-bounces@icann.org">mailto:bylaws-coord-bounces@icann.org</a></a>]<span
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class="">De la part de</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Greg
Shatan<br class="">
<b class="">Envoyé :</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>jeudi
12 mai 2016 21:28<br class="">
<b class="">À :</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gregory,
Holly<br class="">
<b class="">Cc :</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ICANN-Adler;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a></a>;
Sidley ICANN CCWG;<span
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href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a></a>;<span
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href="mailto:bylaws-coord@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bylaws-coord@icann.org">bylaws-coord@icann.org</a></a>;
Seun Ojedeji<br class="">
<b class="">Objet :</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[bylaws-coord] [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers
Comments and Concerns re CCWG Comment -
Version 2<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,
sans-serif;" class="">I think this
reflects an issue in the drafting
process for the comment, which
resulted in several less-than-perfect
translations of the CCWG's decisions
into the draft comment. That's why we
have an iterative process of review
and comment, since we can't all be
part of the process where the words
are first being put on the "page"
(screen). It would be a mistake to
take the draft comment as gospel.
This is not to impugn the efforts of
those involved. We are all running
hard and fast, and that means that you
have to circle back and fix something
a little more often than if you were
in a relaxed work mode.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,
sans-serif;" class="">Greg<o:p
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 2:02 PM,
Gregory, Holly <<a
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wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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We reiterate: if the instruction is
to remove the language then the
recommendation should be to remove the
language.<span
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Sent with Good (<a
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href="http://www.good.com/"
target="_blank" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.good.com">www.good.com</a></a>)<o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size:
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sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Seun
Ojedeji<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
May 12, 2016 12:55:29 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew
Sullivan<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rosemary
E. Fei; Thomas Rickert;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org"
target="_blank" style="color:
purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a></a>;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bylaws-coord@icann.org"
target="_blank" style="color:
purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bylaws-coord@icann.org">bylaws-coord@icann.org</a></a>;
Sidley ICANN CCWG;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"
target="_blank" style="color:
purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a></a>;
ICANN-Adler<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
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[CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers Comments and
Concerns re CCWG Comment -
Version 2<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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+1 but it's certainly the
Chair's call to communicate the
needful to the legal team.<span
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Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Sent from my LG G4<br class="">
Kindly excuse brevity and typos<o:p
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On 12 May 2016 17:27, "Andrew
Sullivan" <<a
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Thanks. FWIW, I certainly
think the text should say,
"Remove this."<br class="">
<br class="">
A<br class="">
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at
04:25:18PM +0000, Rosemary E.
Fei wrote:<br class="">
> Dear All:<br class="">
><br class="">
> I have to second Holly's
response here. I, too, read
the recommendation in the
CCWG's draft public comment,
and wondered why it didn't
just say "remove". If it had,
we would not have asked for
clarification. What we did
not understand, and what was
obscure to us, was why that
was not the recommendation,
given the content of the rest
of the comment.<br class="">
><br class="">
> To be clear, we have no
objection on legal grounds to
removing the items of concern
from grandfathering, as long
as that is what the CCWG
agrees should be done.<br
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> Rosemary<br class="">
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> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT]
Lawyers Comments and Concerns
re CCWG Comment - Version 2<br
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> Hi,<br class="">
><br class="">
> On comment 2 in this
comments-on-the-comment
document, it says this:<br
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><br class="">
> Lawyers’ comment:
What is the recommendation and
what direction is<br class="">
> the
CCWG-Accountability providing
to the legal drafters? In our<br
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> May 7, 2016 comments
on the draft
CCWG-Accountability comment<br
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> letter, we suggested
a recommendation: “We request
that the groups<br class="">
> most directly
involved with the documents
addressed in subsections<br
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> (B) through (E) weigh
in on the need to include
grandfathering<br class="">
> language for those
documents. Depending on such
input, a final<br class="">
> determination should
be made as to whether those
documents should<br class="">
> be included in the
grandfathering provision.”<br
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> I don't get what's
obscure here. The CCWG's
comment is that the mentioned
subsections have no
justification in the CCWG
Proposal.<br class="">
> There's precisely one
thing to do in such a case:
remove the subsection. It
would be helpful, at least to
me, to understand why the
drafters do not understand
this.<br class="">
><br class="">
> The time for substantive
change to the Proposal is
over. If the Proposal has
deficiencies, we will have to
cope with them later. The
task is to implement the
Proposal in bylaws language,
and that's it.<br class="">
> Anything not founded in
either the Proposal or the
facts of relevant law is not
something that should appear
in any changed bylaws text.<br
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> The community consensus
must be treated as
fundamental, or all legitimacy
of this process will be lost.<br
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