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<div>Without speaking to the substantive argument that others are addressing, In the spirit of CCWG taking ownership of our costs can we have an estimate of the cost impact of transcription for WS2? Will help inform us better.</div>
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<div>-James</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday 30 May 2016 at 17:31<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Just to be clear recordings of all calls will continue to be made available after each call of each group.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hope this helps.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Cheers.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm more concerned about a different area of (lack of) support:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">"No note taking by staff, beyond action items, and no transcriptions."</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This will make it more difficult to keep the thread of our work going from week to week.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think we may have relied too heavily on staff drafting of the actual report in Work Stream 1. While I don't necessarily relish substantial drafting responsibilities, it's important that the
end product be the work of the community. The staff (and in particular Bernie) did an amazing job, but it still felt like an odd "intermediation" at times.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Meeting notes and transcriptions are important tools in getting to that point. Hopefully, the action items will be sufficiently detailed to allow a meeting's results to be comprehensible to
those that miss that call, but something will be lost when the sole record of that meeting is a recording and a bullet-point list of "action items."</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Finn Petersen <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:FinPet@erst.dk" target="_blank">FinPet@erst.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I fully support the idea from Jorge.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>På vegne af </b><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a><br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 30. maj 2016 12:13<br>
<b>Til:</b> <a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear co-chairs, dear all<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I was finally having a look at these documents and an apparent inconsistency struck my eye: on the one hand, it is foreseen that the
subgroups will do the „heavy lifting“ including drafting etc.. But, on the other hand, the subgroup members are expected to draft their own documents.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This could delegate and impose probably too much of a burden on the volunteers and have also undesired side-effects on the inclusiveness
and diversity of the subgroups and their outputs, as drafting is not only extremely time intensive –a resource which is unequally distributed- but also requires native or near-native English writing skills.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hence, I would advocate a more balanced approach, with our professional and neutral staff still taking care of the drafting of each subgroups’
key documents (e.g. initial issues description, scoping paper, draft output docs, output doc, etc) as a general rule – with subgroup participants taking over documents that have a more contingent/ad hoc character.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hope this may be agreeable to all<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bernard Turcotte<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 25. Mai 2016 18:21<br>
<b>An:</b> Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">As the work on the Bylaws comes to a close, we have spent some time preparing and thinking through Work Stream 2. Our official Work Stream 2 kick-off is on Sunday
26 June at ICANN56 in Helsinki. To prepare for the kick off, we would like to have a plenary CCWG-Accountability next week on Tuesday 31 May at 19:00 UTC. The proposed agenda for the call is as follows:</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Agenda for CCWG meeting on 31 May at 19:00 UTC:</span></b><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">1. Opening Remarks</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">2. Budget discussion</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">3. Preparation for WS2 kickoff in Helsinki</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt;">·</span><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">What to do before Helsinki</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt;">·</span><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">What are next steps (after Helsinki)</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">4. AOB</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">5. Closing Remarks</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attached you will find a presentation on the budget that we have prepared with the help of Bernard Turcotte and ICANN staff in their Project Costing Support Team
function. We will need to submit this budget to the ICANN Board for their consideration and approval before the start of FY17 in July. As you will see from the presentation, there are a few areas that we may want to discuss as a full group before submitting
our proposal. Please initiate the discussion on the CCWG-Accountability list, and we’ll continue the discussion on the call.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">You will also find attached a presentation on preparing the WS2 kickoff in Helsinki.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best,</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mathieu, Thomas, Leon</span><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">CCWG-Accountability co-Chairs</span></i><span lang="DE-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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