<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All,<div class="">as I mentioned in my previous e-mail to the list, let us discuss the issue during the upcoming call. It is a bit unfortunate that there is so much suspicion. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am sure we will be able to put most, if not all, concerns at rest. Some will be disappointed that there are no evil forces at work. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Talk to you in a few hours.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Thomas</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 31.05.2016 um 17:46 schrieb Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" class="">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to<br class="">constrain you? It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside review.<br class=""><br class="">If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line # for<br class="">how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide<br class="">how to allocate it: transcription; travel support; legal support; whatever.<br class="">I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of<br class="">course, to the new EC budget review powers). But allocation and priority<br class="">setting should be by the CCWG.<br class=""><br class="">Paul<br class=""><br class="">Paul Rosenzweig<br class=""><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" class="">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a><br class="">O: +1 (202) 547-0660<br class="">M: +1 (202) 329-9650<br class="">VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<br class="">www.redbranchconsulting.com<br class="">My PGP Key<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<br class="">[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan<br class="">Greenberg<br class="">Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:11 AM<br class="">To: Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net>;<br class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br class="">Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting<br class="">tomorrow - Minor corrections<br class=""><br class="">Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking<br class="">or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with<br class="">us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware<br class="">of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the<br class="">costs were that were associated with it.<br class=""><br class="">I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit<br class="">decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of<br class="">the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus<br class="">eliminated.<br class=""><br class="">VERY tiresome.<br class=""><br class="">Alan<br class=""><br class="">At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.<br class=""><br class="">The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of <br class="">non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.<br class=""><br class="">But I'll really not surprised.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello Avri, everyone<br class=""><br class="">I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of <br class="">the transcription.<br class="">Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much <br class="">better the argumentative process.<br class=""><br class="">I agree with your question and I joinv<br class=""><br class="">Kind regards<br class=""><br class="">Harold Arcos<br class="">+58 4129982820<br class="">skp: harcos0912<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <br class=""><mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Hi,<br class=""><br class=""> I would like to question the non transcription decision.<br class=""><br class=""> Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>both<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the<br class=""> transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>not<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying<br class=""> accents and pronunciations.<br class=""><br class=""> avri<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">All,<br class=""><br class="">Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.<br class=""><br class="">B.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class=""></blockquote> <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> ---<br class=""> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br class=""> https://www.avast.com/antivirus<br class=""><br class=""> _______________________________________________<br class=""> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""> Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class=""> <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org><br class=""><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>