<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">+1</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; widows: auto; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; widows: auto; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; widows: auto; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">-----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Tijani BEN JEMAA</span></b></div><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Executive Director</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (</span><b style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">FMAI</b><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">)</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Phone: +216 98 330 114</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">+216 52 385 114</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">-----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 20 juin 2016 à 14:59, Roelof Meijer &lt;<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" class="">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>&gt; a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Well, yes. But. We wanted (legal) enforceability, and got it.</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">And the .africa outcome illustrates (apart from the neo-colonalization</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">perspective) that &lt;rule of law&gt; and &lt;justice&gt; do not guarantee the &lt;right&gt;</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">outcome of such a process</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Roelof</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 19-06-16 12:54, "</span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>on</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">behalf of Nigel Roberts" &lt;</span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">on behalf of<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">nigel@channelisles.net</a><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">&gt; wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Welcome to the world of competing interests, advanced to the maxiumn by<br class="">all lawful means.<br class=""><br class="">This is why we need strong accountability, and respect for human rights,<br class="">embedded in ICANN's culture, rather than imposed from the outside by a<br class="">review tribunal.<br class=""><br class="">On 19/06/16 10:55, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Jordan and all,<br class=""><br class="">You are right that the ICANN accountability is an essential thing, and<br class="">that all concerned parties should have the opportunity to challenge<br class="">ICANN for any violation of its bylaws and articles.<br class=""><br class="">But in this case of dot africa, the issue is too obvious that<br class="">dotconnectafrica canıt get the support of the African community<br class="">including Governments. they have at the contrary strong opposition of<br class="">some of them. And the applicant guide book is too clear on this point:<br class="">any Geographic application should gain, inter alias, the explicit<br class="">support of the government(s).<br class=""><br class="">All the steps for a positive end of the application of ZACR (officially<br class="">tasked by the African Union to apply for dot africa on their behalf)<br class="">were accomplished and the decision of the ICANN was justified.<br class=""><br class="">dotconnectafrica argued through the IRP that ICANN wasnıt fair in its<br class="">decision. The IRP process took too longtime because one of the panel<br class="">members passed away. There wasnıt a maximum time for the IRP<br class="">consideration, and that is one of the issues we must tackle in the IRP<br class="">sub-group about IRP. After the late replacement of the dead member of<br class="">the panel, everything was to be restarted. this longtime gives rooms for<br class="">every possible gaming. dont forget that dotconnectafrica has paid a huge<br class="">amont of money in advertising, communication and sponsoring prior to<br class="">the opening of the new gTLD round. the result of the IRP for them is<br class="">vital.<br class=""><br class="">ICANN applied the decision of the IRP and dotconnectafrica lost the<br class="">geographic panel evaluation. Now, they went to the court to delay more<br class="">and more the delegation of dot africa.<br class=""><br class="">In the mean time, the Africans are prevented from having their<br class="">continental TLD because this game is continuing even if the case is too<br class="">clear. Where is the public interest here? where is the interest of<br class="">Africa? As African, Iım too disappointed because we are the hostage of a<br class="">system that privilege the private interest over the African community<br class="">one.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">----<br class="">*Tijani BEN JEMAA*<br class="">Executive Director<br class="">Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)<br class="">Phone: +216 98 330 114<br class="">+216 52 385 114<br class=""><br class="">-------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">----<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 19 juin 2016 à 08:11, parminder &lt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">parminder@itforchange.net</a><br class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>&gt;&gt; a écrit :<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Sunday 19 June 2016 12:11 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Hello Parminder,<br class=""><br class="">As an African, I would tend to agree with your point and wish that<br class="">your conclusion point was the case (as a reactive measure). However<br class="">as you know, we have discussed this extensively in the past (on<br class="">different fora) and we found that the means to the end of such is so<br class="">complicated and the end itself would ultimately create a govt lead<br class="">ICANN which i certainly don't want.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">If ICANN functioning under California non profit law - made by<br class="">government - and subject to US jurisdiction - also made of and by<br class="">governments (and governments alone) &nbsp;- can continue to be seem and<br class="">treated as a multistakeholder organisation, to your and others'<br class="">satisfaction, there is simply no reason why ICANN cannot be and<br class="">function similarly under international jurisdiction, created by<br class="">international law.<br class=""><br class="">Your preferring US law/ jurisdiction over international law/<br class="">jurisdiction is, simply and nothing more than, a statement of your<br class="">preferring the US jurisdiction over international jurisdiction (<br class="">which, while you have a right to your choices, I consider<br class="">democratically unfortunate). None is less complex that the other.<br class="">There are hundreds of international organisations functioning under<br class="">international law, and so can ICANN. And if ICANN has some special<br class="">contexts and needs, that would be met by relevant innovations in<br class="">international law, but not by a democratic regression to subjecting<br class="">the world to the US law. Democracy is precious, and people have done<br class="">much to achieve it. Please dont treat it lightly, citing<br class="">technicalities against it. That is extremely unfortunate. Sorry for<br class="">the analogy but it directly applies; every tyrant/ dictator is prone<br class="">to argue that democracy is messy, and difficult and, as you say,<br class="">complicated. But such an argument does not carry, does it.<br class=""><br class="">To call an ICANN which is constituted under US law, and fully<br class="">answerable to US jurisdiction (meaning US government, its all<br class="">branches), as fully multistakeholder;<br class=""><br class="">and, at the same time, an ICANN functioning exactly in the same<br class="">manner, but now under international law and jurisdiction, as (to quote<br class="">you) becoming a government let ICANN<br class=""><br class="">is simply to make a misleading statement.<br class=""><br class="">Although, the fallacy contained in it is as clear as daylight, among<br class="">status quoists circles this statement or argument continues to be made<br class="">and re-made. But, for other than the fully converted and therefore<br class="">impervious to simple logic, and demands of that high value of<br class="">democracy, it takes away nothing &nbsp;from the my arguments regarding the<br class="">unfairness of ICANN being subject to US jurisdiction, and the urgent<br class="">need to move it to international jurisdiction, which you are right, I<br class="">have often made on various fora, and will keep making. It is a<br class="">political act.<br class=""><br class="">regards, parminder<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Regards<br class="">Sent from my LG G4<br class="">Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br class=""><br class="">On 19 Jun 2016 07:28, "parminder"<br class="">&lt;&lt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">parminder@itforchange.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Sunday 19 June 2016 11:31 AM, Jordan Carter wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I may have missed something, Parminder, but isn't it a plus<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;rather than a negative for ICANN accountability that process<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;errors can be appealed and the company held to account for them?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jordan<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In may make ICANN accountable, but to a system that is<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;unaccountable to the global public, and is only accountable to<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the US public (there could even be cases where these two could be<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in partial conflict) - that in sum is the jurisdiction issue.<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ICANN accountability issue is different, though linked, bec it<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has to be accountable, but to the right system, which itself is<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;accountable to the global public. Different 'layers' of<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;accountability are implicated here, as people in IG space will<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;like to say!<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Here the issue is, a US court has no right to (exclusively)<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;adjudicate the rights of the African people, bec African people<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;had no part in making or legitimising the system that the US<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;court is a part of. Dont you see what problem we will be facing<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if the US court says that fairness of process or whatever demands<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that .africa goes to DCA. If you were an African, what would you<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;feel?<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;An ICANN under international law will be subject to only an<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;international judicial process, which Africa is equally a part<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of, and gives legitimacy to.<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;parminder<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jordan<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 19 June 2016 at 07:26, parminder<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;&lt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">parminder@itforchange.net</a>&gt;<br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Sunday 19 June 2016 04:13 AM, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The Economist | A virtual turf war: The scramble for<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;.africa<br class=""><br class="">&lt;<a href="http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21700661-lawyer" class="">http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21700661-lawyer</a><br class="">s-california-are-denying-africans-their-own-domain-scramble?frsc=dg%7<br class="">Cd&gt;<a href="http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21700661-lawy" class="">http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21700661-lawy</a><br class="">ers-california-are-denying-africans-their-own-domain-scramble?frsc=dg<br class="">%7Cd<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Not that this fact is being discovered now, but it still is<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the simplest and clearest proof that US jurisdiction over<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ICANN's policy processes and decisions is absolutely<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;untenable. Either the US makes a special legal provision<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;unilaterally foregoing judicial, legislative and executive<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;jurisdiction over ICANN policy functions, or the normal<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;route of ICANN's incorporation under international law is<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;taken, making ICANN an international organisation under<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;international law, and protected from US jurisdiction under<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a host country agreement.<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;parminder<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul Rosenzweig<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;--<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jordan Carter<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wellington, New Zealand<br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+64 21 442 649 &lt;tel:%2B64%2021%20442%20649&gt;<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;jordan@jordancarter.org.nz &lt;mailto:jordan@jordancarter.org.nz&gt;<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class="">&lt;mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org&gt;<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Communit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