<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It&#39;s clear to me that the &quot;may&quot; applies to whether the review takes place, not how. That said, see my response to Brett.  </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Greg<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I think the concern with the “may” language was that it seemed to admit of the possibility that there were ways OTHER THAN through a bottom up process by which GPI might be determined.  Say, for example, by Board determination.  I certainly agree that the intention of using “shall” was not to mandate the determination of GPI.  Rather it was to say that bottom up MSM was the exclusive means by which GPI can be deveopled.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Can you suggest a clarifying text that captures that and also excludes your concern with mandatory action?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul Rosenzweig<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">O: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20547-0660" value="+12025470660" target="_blank">+1 (202) 547-0660</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">M: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20329-9650" value="+12023299650" target="_blank">+1 (202) 329-9650</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">VOIP: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20738-1739" value="+12027381739" target="_blank">+1 (202) 738-1739</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">www.redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">My PGP Key: <a href="http://redbranchconsulting.com/who-we-are/public-pgp-key/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://redbranchconsulting.com/who-we-are/public-pgp-key/</span></a> <u><span style="color:#0563c1"><u></u><u></u></span></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Gannon &lt;<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Thomas Rickert &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>&gt;; Accountability Cross Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">It&#39;s unfortunate that we don&#39;t have time to run this by our counsel, as I would be interested in their views.  Here are mine.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">I would recommend against filing these comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">FIRST, I disagree with the second point raised.  Substituting &quot;shall&quot; for &quot;may&quot; would incorrectly imply that there is a <u>requirement</u> that a determination of the global public interest <u>must</u> take place.  We have not asked for such a requirement and we have not specified any such requirement, which would render this statement nebulous, ambiguous and undefined.  As currently drafted, <i>if</i> a determination of the global public interest takes place it will be done by the multistakeholder community using a bottom-up multistakeholder process, but there is (properly) no language <u>requiring</u> that such a determination be made.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">If anyone believes that Final Recommendation 1, para 51 <u>requires</u> the initiation of a process to determine the global public interest, that should either be a part of Work Stream 2 or a huge implementation item for Work Stream 1.  As far as I can see, it is neither -- which further proves that changing &quot;may&quot; to &quot;shall&quot; goes beyond the recommendations of the CCWG.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">SECOND, I also disagree with the third point raised. &quot;Organized&quot; is commonly used in Articles of Incorporation (indeed, in some states, such as Massachusetts, a non-profit corporation files Articles of Organization rather than Articles of Incorporation).  As our counsel pointed out on the last call, the California official form for Articles of Incorporation uses the term &quot;organized.&quot; (See attached)  It is a best practice to stick closely to the official language provided by the jurisdiction -- here it is &quot;organized.&quot;  This is demonstrated in model California Articles of Incorporation prepared by Public Counsel, a pro bono law firm, and available online (see attached or <a href="http://www.publiccounsel.org/publications?id=0059" target="_blank">http://www.publiccounsel.org/publications?id=0059</a>).  It would be far preferable if we were to accept the clarification that &quot;organized&quot; is what&#39;s used in this circumstance, rather than to recommend a change that is at best meaningless and at worst creates the potential for confusion (since one always looks for meaning in any change, and confusion could fill the void created by the meaninglessness of this change).  To paraphrase Shakespeare, I don&#39;t think the confusion is in the document, it is in ourselves (or at least in some of us) -- and it would be better for us to adjust our understanding of the document, rather than to adjust the document to suit our misunderstanding.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Of course, the language of the CCWG comment is relatively undemanding -- we only ask that &quot;counsel&quot; (whose counsel?  ICANN&#39;s?) or &quot;the drafters&quot; (why the difference?) review the language.  We do not justify our quasi-recommendations of changes, other than by saying that we are confused by the word &quot;organized&quot; and by demonstrating that we are confused about what is permissive and what is required.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Frankly, I&#39;m far from sure that this comment is widely supported, other than by apathy or lack of time.  I think it would be a mistake for either of these two recommendations (?) to be adopted, and I hope that counsel/the drafters, upon further review, let the original drafting stand.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">The only thing I agree with is the trivial change from &quot;further&quot; to &quot;future,&quot; which at least does not make matters worse.  This is hardly worth a comment by itself.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">In sum, I reiterate that I would recommend against filing these comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Greg<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">I agree.  This is a legal document, and we should have the benefit of counsel on this.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Greg<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM, James Gannon &lt;<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">While not able to certify anything, if there are issues that our counsel see I think its important that they are raised.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-James<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of &quot;Gregory, Holly&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday 6 July 2016 at 20:32<br><b>To: </b>Thomas Rickert &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>&gt;, Mathieu Weill &lt;<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;, Accountability Cross Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;, Bernard Turcotte &lt;<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear Co-Chairs and CCWG-Accountability Members and Participants,  Please let us know if you want Sidley and/or Adler to comment on this before you post it.  We will not do so unless instructed to.  Holly</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">HOLLY J. GREGORY</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>Partner and Co-Chair, Global Corporate Governance &amp; Executive Compensation Practice<br><br><b>SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP<br></b><a href="tel:%2B1%20212%20839%205853" target="_blank">+1 212 839 5853</a><br><a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" title="Click to send email to Gregory, Holly" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bernard Turcotte<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br><b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Please find attached the draft comment to the ICANN public consultation on the Articles of Incorporation from the leadership.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">These comments are based on the questions raised during the CCWG meeting on the AOC and in consideration of Sam Eisner&#39;s response to those questions.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Please respond to the list ASAP if you have comments as this public consultation closes in a few hours.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Bernard Turcotte<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">ICANN Staff Support for the CCWG Co-Chairs.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">****************************************************************************************************<br>This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and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