<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't see the issue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There is no requirement in the revised Bylaws that the Global Public Interest be determined, or that such a determination is needed (or even desirable) for ICANN (the Board, the Corporation and/or the Community) to make decisions..</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There is a requirement that <i>if</i> the Global Public Interest is determined, it will be done by the multistakeholder community through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There is no requirement that that the Global Public Interest be determined at a given time or that (if it is) that it be re-examined at fixed periods: therefore, it may be determined "from time to time." This is a phrase I have commonly seen in legal documents, used to indicate that something can happen at any time, and may be repeated at any time. Contrast it with "periodically," which strongly implies periodicity -- that something will happen at fixed intervals and not "from time to time."<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Acting in the Global Public Interest does not require an exhaustive determination of what the "Global Public Interest" is before actions are taken. Every non-profit that acts as a public benefit or public charity is required to act in the "public interest," yet I would be surprised if more than a few (if any) have gone through a process to make a determination of the "public interest." ICANN is no exception. The "Global Public Interest" standard has been in ICANN's Bylaws since the beginning; this is nothing new. It has functioned up until now and it will continue to function pretty much as it has in this regard, though mindful of the clarifications and changes brought about by the new Bylaws.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If the multistakeholder community believes it is necessary or appropriate to take on the task of determining the Global Public Interest, it is now clear how that must be done -- by the multistakeholder community through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If the ICANN Board or staff believes it is appropriate for there to be a determination of the Global Public Interest, they can't do it themselves; they must turn to the multistakeholder community to make that determination through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Until that time, ICANN will go on as it has.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P.S. (and a tip o' the homburg hat to CW): There is also the question of what "Global Public Interest" we are determining. Strictly speaking, the Bylaws (old and new) refer to acting in the "global public interest in the operational stability of the Internet," which is to be done by carrying out the mission (once stated in the Articles but now only in the Bylaws). What does the "operational stability of the Internet" mean? Based on 17 years of experience, that should not be narrowly defined. If ICANN's interest was truly limited to keeping the pipes open and flowing, the whole New gTLD Program would be outside the mission. Any innovation would be aimed solely at keeping the trains running (e.g., IPv6) but not to making a market in domain names (at any level). I'm not proposing that this is a correct reading of the scope of ICANN's global public interest. Indeed, I think it should be clear that ICANN's mission is part of the equation, not merely the phrase about "operational staiblity." Unfortunately, that has been made less clear by removing the enumeration of the mission from the Articles; while reference is made to the mission as stated in the Bylaws, distance makes the connection seem attenuated even if it is not.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In any event, any serious discussion of the Global Public Interest would have to start with the question of "The Global Public Interest in what?"</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></p><div style="font-size:12.8px"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="800" style="width:600pt"><tbody><tr><td width="8" style="width:6pt;padding:0in"><br></td><td style="padding:0in"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> </span></font></p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="800" style="width:600.0pt">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I keep trying to figure out how ICANN is supposed to operate on Day 1 of the amended By-Laws given that actions must be taken by the Board and further given
that the bottom-up multistakeholder process to determine the Global Public Interest on particular issues takes years. Is Global Public Interest to be considered in connection with each PDP? Is there to be a separate PDP on defining Global Public Interest?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Could the Board frozen from acting on issues, e.g. the Red Cross, unless and until the GPI is finally determined in this regard? Would they be in violation
of the new By-Laws for voting one way or the other on this? Same question as to geo names.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">To my mind there is still a massive fiction going on to the effect that the Board does not make policy decisions or determine the Global Public Interest. It
is absolutely inherent in the very structure of ICANN that the Board will receive potentially conflicting policy advice and will have to be the arbiter of such advice. Why have any “thresholds” for overturning either GNSO or GAC advice if this were untrue?
The Board also receives advice directly from ALAC and from other sources, e.g. the European Commission. Nothing about the Accountabilty work changes this basic fact. The work just says that if enough people object to action taken by the Board, there is a
mechanism for addressing that. Are we to suppose that it is in fact the processes available in the Empowered Community as a result of the Accountability work that will define the Global Public Interest “from time to time”?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I am especially confused by the use of this language “from time to time’ with respect to determinations of the Global Public Interest. Although the community
is making efforts to cooperate and communicate early as to policy matters, there really is not a set mechanism at present (nor will there be at the time of the IANA Transition) to measure Board action or hold the Board accountable to acting in the Global Public
Interest because no one has defined it. In this regard, it is actually unfair to Board members to expect them to act in the absence of an express standard that has been developed by the Community. I think that if I were a Board member, I might refuse to
act or to vote on an issue by simply saying, “well, I have to comply with the By-Laws but the GPI with respect to this issue has not yet been determined by the bottom-up Multistakeholder process.” Everyone acknowledges no definition of GPI is agreed at present.
Why does anyone assume that ICANN can operate effectively on Day 1 of the new By-Laws?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Lastly, I think it would be a “darned shame” if Holly and Rosemary did not opine on the final language that is recommended around the GPI, if only to prevent
lawsuits against the SOs and ACs and their officers. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bedazzled,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> matthew shears<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community; Thomas Rickert</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:00 AM, matthew shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Thanks Greg. But, why would we not use the langugage we've agreed in the new Bylaws as it relates to GPI?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:1.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">2.2.1. CCWG-Accountability Final Recommendation 1, para 51: The Articles of Incorporation will be amended to clarify that
<b>the global public interest will be determined through a bottom-up, multistakeholder process</b>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">2.2.2. CCWG-Accountability Final Recommendation 5, para 153 (core values) 2: Seeking and supporting broad, informed participation reflecting the functional, geographic, and cultural
diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and decision-making
<b>to ensure that the bottom-up, multistakeholder policy development process is used to ascertain the global public interest
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">the Corporation shall, except as limited by Article 54 hereof, pursue the charitable and public purposes of lessening the burdens of government and promoting the global public interest in the operational
stability of the Internet</span><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:red">,</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black"> as such global public interest may be determined from time to time by the multistakeholder community through an inclusive bottom-up
multistakeholder community process</span><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:red">,</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black"> by carrying out the mission set forth in the bylaws of the Corporation (“<b>Bylaws</b>”).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">the Corporation shall, except as limited by Article 54 hereof, pursue the charitable and public purposes of lessening the burdens of government and promoting the global public interest in the operational
stability of the Internet by carrying out the mission set forth in the bylaws of the Corporation (“<b>Bylaws</b>”). <i>Such global public interest may be determined from time to time. Any determination of such global public interest shall be made by the multistakeholder
community through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process.</i></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Basically, what I've done is to remove the long inserted phrase about determining the GPI (between the two red commas in the original
language above) and then try to "unpack" that phrase into sentences. Thrusting this phrase in the middle of the sentence was clearly causing two comprehension problems, even though the drafting was technically correct. In addition to the previously discussed
comprehension problem around the word "may," the mid-sentence insertion of the phrase obscured the connection between the final words ("by carrying out the mission...") and the thought that it was completing ("the Corporation shall ... pursue the charitable
and public purposes of [x] and [y]..."). Removing the inserted phrase makes the primary narrative thrust of the sentence clear: "<b>the Corporation shall ... pursue the charitable and public purposes of [x] and [y] by </b></span><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">by
carrying out the mission set forth in the bylaws.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Lawyers love long sentences (I've seen some go on for 20 lines or more), and they love inserting explanatory or qualifying phrases in the middle of the sentences, such as this phrase inserted
solely to show how such phrases are inserted, so that such sentences can run on. Lawyers will also use the word "such" in a somewhat futile effort to indicate that the word following (in this case, "sentences") was already used in the sentence and is being
referred to again with the same meaning. These drafting habits unfortunately make following the main thread of a sentence increasingly difficult. They also force awkward phrasing of the inserted clauses, since these clauses have to be drafted as referential
fragments, rather than self-sufficient sentences. Ultimately, readability and clarity of meaning suffers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I hope that my suggested change clarifies the main thread of the sentence, and also clarifies the meaning of the inserted phrase.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Trang Nguyen <<a href="mailto:trang.nguyen@icann.org" target="_blank">trang.nguyen@icann.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The ICANN restated articles of incorporation is not on the critical path so we are able to accommodate an extension of the public comment period. The close of
the public comment period has been extended to 13 July.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 2:24 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>" <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>,
Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>, Trang Nguyen <<a href="mailto:trang.nguyen@icann.org" target="_blank">trang.nguyen@icann.org</a>>, Yuko Green <<a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org" target="_blank">yuko.green@icann.org</a>>
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the CCWG before we file it, Im not sure if a 24-48hr delay in the filing of the CCWG comment would have a major impact downstream in the timelines, I have cc’d Trang and Yuko who may be able to respond to that.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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correct first time and to do that we nee to do it with a full set of inputs and considerations by the CCWG members and I don’t feel we have this yet. I know that we are working to tight deadlines, but we need to make sure that we do this right.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 6 July 2016 at 21:45<br>
<b>To: </b>James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>" <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>,
Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">FIRST, I disagree with the second point raised. Substituting "shall" for "may" would incorrectly imply that there is a
<u>requirement</u> that a determination of the global public interest <u>must</u> take place. We have not asked for such a requirement and we have not specified any such requirement, which would render this statement nebulous, ambiguous and undefined. As
currently drafted, <i>if</i> a determination of the global public interest takes place it will be done by the multistakeholder community using a bottom-up multistakeholder process, but there is (properly) no language
<u>requiring</u> that such a determination be made.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">If anyone believes that Final Recommendation 1, para 51
<u>requires</u> the initiation of a process to determine the global public interest, that should either be a part of Work Stream 2 or a huge implementation item for Work Stream 1. As far as I can see, it is neither -- which further proves that changing "may"
to "shall" goes beyond the recommendations of the CCWG.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">SECOND, I also disagree with the third point raised. "Organized" is commonly used in Articles of Incorporation (indeed, in some states, such as Massachusetts,
a non-profit corporation files Articles of Organization rather than Articles of Incorporation). As our counsel pointed out on the last call, the California official form for Articles of Incorporation uses the term "organized." (See attached) It is a best
practice to stick closely to the official language provided by the jurisdiction -- here it is "organized." This is demonstrated in model California Articles of Incorporation prepared by Public Counsel, a pro bono law firm, and available online (see attached
or <a href="http://www.publiccounsel.org/publications?id=0059" target="_blank">http://www.publiccounsel.org/publications?id=0059</a>). It would be far preferable if we were to accept the clarification that "organized" is what's used in this circumstance,
rather than to recommend a change that is at best meaningless and at worst creates the potential for confusion (since one always looks for meaning in any change, and confusion could fill the void created by the meaninglessness of this change). To paraphrase
Shakespeare, I don't think the confusion is in the document, it is in ourselves (or at least in some of us) -- and it would be better for us to adjust our understanding of the document, rather than to adjust the document to suit our misunderstanding.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Of course, the language of the CCWG comment is relatively undemanding -- we only ask that "counsel" (whose counsel? ICANN's?) or "the drafters" (why the difference?)
review the language. We do not justify our quasi-recommendations of changes, other than by saying that we are confused by the word "organized" and by demonstrating that we are confused about what is permissive and what is required.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Frankly, I'm far from sure that this comment is widely supported, other than by apathy or lack of time. I think it would be a mistake for either of these two
recommendations (?) to be adopted, and I hope that counsel/the drafters, upon further review, let the original drafting stand.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The only thing I agree with is the trivial change from "further" to "future," which at least does not make matters worse. This is hardly worth a comment by itself.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of "Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 6 July 2016 at 20:32<br>
<b>To: </b>Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>, "<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>"
<<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>, Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dear Co-Chairs and CCWG-Accountability Members and Participants, Please let us know if you want
Sidley and/or Adler to comment on this before you post it. We will not do so unless instructed to. Holly</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HOLLY J. GREGORY</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>
Partner and Co-Chair, Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice<br>
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<b>SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP<br>
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Gregory,
Holly" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bernard Turcotte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please find attached the draft comment to the ICANN public consultation on the Articles of Incorporation from the leadership.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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