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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I confirm Tijami.<div>Without clear concepts and principles, there is no chance for a "Global Public Interest".</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Despite the fact that “public interest “ is a general broad
term, it is always decided upon weighing expected gains and potential losses
associated with a decision or a policy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hence, besides defining principles and concepts, there is a
need, to have an independent party who can have a say, on what is the “global
public internet” in issues related to ICANN’s decisions and policies.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely</p><p class="MsoNormal">Mona</p><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn<br>Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:22:31 +0100<br>To: sam@lanfranco.net<br>CC: thomas@rickert.net; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Draft Comment for Public Consultation on Articles of Incorporation (AOC)<br><br><font color="#002e7a">I love the comparaison you make with justice.</font><div><font color="#002e7a"><br></font></div><div><font color="#002e7a">As for justice, we need <span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">a broad set of principles</span><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"> to be defined</span></font></div><div><font color="#002e7a"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">The purpose of the process is </span><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">to reach consensus based on those principles. </span><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Reaching a consensus on the issue at hand without having the set of principles will give a result according to the power (money, time to spend on the discussion, etc.) of each stakeholder.</span></font></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font color="#002e7a"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#002e7a"><span style="font-size:15px;">The « Global Public Interest » is needed to avoid that the ICANN policy or practice is captured by political, commercial, and/or any other particular interest. So if we limit it to reaching a consensus, we may see political or commercial interest dominate the consensus for the reasons I mentioned. That consensus is necessary and should be based on the so called « set of broad principles ».</span></font></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:15px;"> </span></font></span></div><div><div>
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<br><div><blockquote><div>Le 10 juil. 2016 à 13:52, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:16.866666793823242px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span>At the risk of restating the obvious in simple terms I am taking a whack at the issue of ICANN and the public interest (global or otherwise). There is no agreed upon definitive definition of the public interest. This is not because there are different competing definitions but because of the inherent nature of the notion itself. The public interest is not like an element (iron, copper, helium) in the periodic chart where there is a fine grained molecular test of whether something is in, or not in, the public interest. It is a concern across a broad scope of human existence for the impact of policies and practices carried out by institutions, and in some cases individuals. Does an action support, or counter, the public interest (i.e., can I raise chickens in my urban back yard)?</span></p><p class="ecxmsonormal" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">In ICANN, it is appropriate to have a commitment to policies and actions in the global public interest, without a defined definition of global public interest. That is why there is reference to the multistakeholder community through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process. Here is where a nuance is important. The task of that process is not to craft an ICANN definitive definition of the global public interest. The task of that process is to stand ready to be invoked whenever it appears that an ICANN policy or practice is not consistent with some element of the global public interest. C</span></p><p class="ecxmsonormal" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">In the case of society and justice, where there is no definitive definition of justice, a broad set of principles exist and on a case by case basis the objective is that “justice has to be seen to be done”. In the case of ICANN and a commitment to the global public interest, on a policy and practice case by case basis, the global public interest has to be seen to be served. To repeat, the task of the ICANN multistakeholder community is to remain vigilant with respect to policies and practices as they impact on the global public interest and remain as the defenders of those interests within the work of ICANN. In doing so it will benefit from the case evidence build up within ICANN and elsewhere, but its task is not to pursue a quest for a definitive definition of the global public interest.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:16.866666793823242px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span> Sam Lanfranco, NPOC/CSIH<br></span></p><pre class="ecxmoz-signature" style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="-1">--
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"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
邦有道，贫且贱焉，耻也。邦无道，富且贵焉，耻也
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Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
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