<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with Paul. We need a process that is workable and efficient. The last thing we need is a process that will repeat the quarrelsome and time-consuming exercise we just went through with even more administrative matters. Let’s try to stay focused on the substance of what we are here to do and not get sucked into opportunities for endless argument on administrative issues that we had set up this committee to deal with previously.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Robin<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" class="">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">With respect, I disagree. The question of whether or not to seek advice is a ministerial one that can and should be left to the good judgment of the co-chairs and the committee members. As we have seen in the last few days, the broader CCWG can get overwhelmed with disagreement on relatively inconsequential matters of process when for the most part our thinking and time are best devoted to substantive questions that require analysis and resolution<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Paul<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; 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text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">http://redbranchconsulting.com/who-we-are/public-pgp-key/</span></a><u class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Seun Ojedeji<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 18, 2016 12:32 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">acct-staff@icann.org</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Legal Committee and WS2 budget - new proposal<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Hello Mathieu,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">The attached document indicated that decision will be handled based on case by case basis which is fine.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">However I think sub-bullet 1 of item 2 on page 6 is not explicit about decision making process. I like to suggest that when independent council is required, the legal committee should rather recommend (not decide on behalf) to the group as it should be the decision of the CCWG-ACT to make. Such recommendation should also include adequate rationale on why external council is preferred over ICANN legal staff.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Sent from my LG G4<br class="">Kindly excuse brevity and typos<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 18 Jul 2016 5:10 p.m., "Mathieu Weill" <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Dear Colleagues,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Based on the feedback received during last week’s call, as well as on the robust discussion on the list, we are suggesting a revised approach for the Legal Committee :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">-<span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Composition based on previous Legal executive team<span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">-<span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Co-chairs remain budget owners, working with support from the PCST<span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">-<span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Legal committee may direct requests to external firms, on a case by case assessment taking into account costs, skills as well as potential requirement for “independent” advice.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">We believe this strikes a good balance between the need to manage costs efficiently and responsibly, and the ability for our group to request independent advice when needed.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Depending on the feedbacks, we will report on our progress to the Board Finance Committee and SO/AC leaders during a call that has been arranged at the BFC’s request on Monday 25 July.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="FR" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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