<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">David,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I agree with your reading on this point of the opinion (and commented to that effect on Phil's CircleID piece). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:36 PM, David Post <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.g.post@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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At 09:37 AM 8/3/2016, Phil Corwin wrote:<br>
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FYI, yesterday I published a short article on the decision which can be
found at
<a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160802_court_of_appeals_avoids_doomsday_effect_in_iran_cctld_decision/" target="_blank">
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160802_court_of_appeals_avoids_doomsday_effect_in_iran_cctld_decision/</a>
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One small-ish quibble: you write:<br><br>
"In reaching its decision, the Court <i>opined </i>(but did not
decide) that a top level domain constitutes an attachable property
interest."<br><br>
Not sure that's strictly correct. I think "opined"
implies that the court expressed an opinion about the matter (without
actually deciding it). But I don't think it did express an opinion
one way or the other; it simply said that it would "assume"
that the ccTLDs constitute property, without really considering the
matter, because it would have no impact on the outcome. <br>
I know it's a nit ... but the question of whether TLDs are
"property" is sure to come up again, and I don't think this
opinion is any support at all - even weak support - for the notion that
they are.<br>
David<br><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">In it I state:<br>
In my view, this result avoids the possibility of a major erosion of
confidence and participation in ICANN by ccTLD operators by making clear
that a respected Court of Appeals in the U.S. possesses adequate
technical understanding of the DNS to avoid a legal decision that could
lead to technical and political instability many nations would not wish
to continue in a DNS coordinated by a U.S. non-profit corporation if it
could be ordered by a U.S. court to transfer control of any nation's
ccTLD. This decision will also hopefully tamp down calls by some parties
for ICANN's place of incorporation to be moved outside of the U.S. by
demonstrating that ICANN's jurisdiction does not create a threat to other
nation's ccTLDs. Remaining jurisdiction issues will be addressed in work
stream 2 of ICANN's ongoing accountability process.<br>
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For those following along in the effort to attach the .ir (and other)
ccTLDs, the appellate court issued an opinion yesterday affirming the
decision of the court below rejecting the effort to attach the domain
(albeit on different grounds). Here is a link to the opinion:
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