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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think the arrangements you describe would be sufficient to protect the third party interests of registrants under a TLD. More could also be done to ensure that
in any such delegation, the new owner doesn’t impair the property and service interests of SLD registrants.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">What I don’t understand is the court’s feeling that ICANN’s interest in the stability and interoperability of the DNS would be impaired by a legally mandated
redelegation. I think that argument is just plain false. A redelegation does not create a compatibility issue. I don’t think the court understands what ICANN does and was overly swayed by hysterical USG amicus brief that claimed that the whole “model of internet
governance” would be destroyed by a pro-plaintiff decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>; Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com>; David Post <david.g.post@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Weinstein v. Iran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Excellent post, Milton. Do you think the ruling would have been different in case ICANN had any sort of direct access to the database (e.g.: through a escrow
service provider)? Put it differently: in case ICANN had access to a full replication of the ccTLD database and could keep things running smoothly, do you the ruling should be different?
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Diego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Diego R. Canabarro</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Equipe de Assessoria do CGI.br / CGI.br Advisory Team <<a href="http://cgi.br/">http://cgi.br/</a>>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Núcleo de Informação e Coordenação do Ponto BR - NIC.br <<a href="http://nic.br/">http://nic.br/</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Em qui 04 ago 2016, às 18:15:56, Mueller, Milton L escreveu:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> As some of you know we've been doing some serious research on this topic and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> here is our take on the court decision:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2016/08/04/plaintiffs-cant-seize-ir-court">
http://www.internetgovernance.org/2016/08/04/plaintiffs-cant-seize-ir-court</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> -rules/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> From:
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Corwin Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 5:46 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> To: David Post <<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com">david.g.post@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Cc: 'CCWG-Accountability' <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Weinstein v. Iran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Greg Shatan raised the same quibble in a comment posted at the website, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> I replied as follows-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Greg:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Thanks for the positive review of a hastily composed article. You are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> correct that the court expressed an assumption that a ccTLD constituted an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> attachable property interest, but did not decide that it was. While that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> assumption might be cited in a future case involving TLD matters it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> certainly has little to no weight. Further, courts might well decide that a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> nation's interest in its ccTLD, which is independent of any contractual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> relationship with ICANN, differentiates ccTLDs from gTLDs, which are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> dependent on being awarded such a contract by ICANN and can be lost if the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> registry operator commits a material breach of the registry agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Finally, whether or not ccTLDs or gTLDs constitute some type of property<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> interest is a separate question from whether second level domains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> constitute a form of property. So yes, it was a very interesting outcome<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> but in no way determinative on the TLD as property issue. Best, Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> You are correct that the Court took no position one way or another on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> whether a TLD constitutes property, and leaves that issue for another case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> at a later date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Very best, Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> From: David Post [<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com">mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:37 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> To: Phil Corwin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Cc: Paul Rosenzweig; 'CCWG-Accountability'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Weinstein v. Iran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> At 09:37 AM 8/3/2016, Phil Corwin wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> FYI, yesterday I published a short article on the decision which can be<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> found at<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160802_court_of_appeals_avoids_doomsday_eff">
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160802_court_of_appeals_avoids_doomsday_eff</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> ect_in_iran_cctld_decision/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> One small-ish quibble: you write:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> "In reaching its decision, the Court opined (but did not decide) that a top<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> level domain constitutes an attachable property interest."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Not sure that's strictly correct. I think "opined" implies that the court<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> expressed an opinion about the matter (without actually deciding it). But<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> I don't think it did express an opinion one way or the other; it simply<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> said that it would "assume" that the ccTLDs constitute property, without<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> really considering the matter, because it would have no impact on the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> outcome. I know it's a nit ... but the question of whether TLDs are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> "property" is sure to come up again, and I don't think this opinion is any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> support at all - even weak support - for the notion that they are. David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> In it I state:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> In my view, this result avoids the possibility of a major erosion of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> confidence and participation in ICANN by ccTLD operators by making clear<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> that a respected Court of Appeals in the U.S. possesses adequate technical<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> understanding of the DNS to avoid a legal decision that could lead to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> technical and political instability many nations would not wish to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> continue in a DNS coordinated by a U.S. non-profit corporation if it could<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> be ordered by a U.S. court to transfer control of any nation's ccTLD. This<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> decision will also hopefully tamp down calls by some parties for ICANN's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> place of incorporation to be moved outside of the U.S. by demonstrating<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> that ICANN's jurisdiction does not create a threat to other nation's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> ccTLDs. Remaining jurisdiction issues will be addressed in work stream 2 of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> ICANN's ongoing accountability process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Best regards to all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Twitter: @VlawDC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> From:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org%3cmailto:accountability-cros">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cros</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:s-community-bounces@icann.org">s-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> [<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Rosenzweig Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:28 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> To: 'CCWG-Accountability'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Weinstein v. Iran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> For those following along in the effort to attach the .ir (and other)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> ccTLDs, the appellate court issued an opinion yesterday affirming the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> decision of the court below rejecting the effort to attach the domain<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> (albeit on different grounds). Here is a link to the opinion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">> Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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