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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 16 August 2016 10:27 PM,
John Curran wrote:<br>
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Parminder -
Could you please cite specifically what “transparency standards”
for public bodies you believe that ICANN should comply with?</pre>
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Sure John<br>
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As I said, most democratic governments of the world have laws for
access to public information. Take India's Right to Information Act
for instance. Wikipedia information on it is <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Information_Act,_2005">here</a>,
and here is <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Information_Act,_2005">the
actual text</a>. The US also has very good laws in this regard, to
which you can get easy access. Over 95 countries have some kind of
freedom of information laws ( see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_laws_by_country">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_laws_by_country</a>
) and I think most of them have better transparency laws than what
ICANN adheres to...<br>
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<pre wrap=""> I do believe ICANN should operate with an exceptional level of
transparency, but I believe that about my accountant as well</pre>
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First, transparency to whom? Probably you mean accountant's
transparent to you, not to the public... But even if you are so good
as to be calling for the latter, that is your expectation from
someone, which is an entirely private matter, and your will to do or
not do. We, on the other hand, are talking about *legitimate*
expectation of the *public*, and I see no basis for a legitimate
expectation of the public for your accountant to be entirely
transparent to it. <br>
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<pre wrap=""> (and it makes neither of them a "public governance body"…)</pre>
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Some of us may have decided that we will jettison all known concepts
and theories of political science and governance and consider the
Internet and ICANN sui generis but I would suggest that it is not at
all wise to do so. I do not want to comment on what two kinds of
ideologies converge in this, what I see as, very dangerous
direction, so let me not comment :) <br>
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<pre wrap=""> If you would be specific regarding which particular norms and
standards for transparency you believe ICANN should meet
(regardless of your underlying justification why), then perhaps
we may find areas of agreement among the working group?</pre>
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Yes, I am specific. I want ICANN to uphold the same level of
transparency standards that the more democratic governments do, and
the details are all in the documents linked above. Tell me how would
you want us to go from here.<br>
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regards, parminder <br>
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Thanks!
/John
Disclaimer: my views alone.
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