<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Marilyn,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Steve</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" class="">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">First of all, ICANN has always complied with the lobbying disclosures. :-) <div class="">I know that some are turning up their noses at the use of lobbyists, but this is not a bad thing when one understands that in order to meet with elected officials and provide information, depending on how much of that one does, one registers as a lobbyist in the United States.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am not now a lobbyist, but at one time in my technical career which spaned 27 years, I was registered, because the majority of my job was to meet with elected officials -- in the USG, in the US Congress and in the US House of Representatives. And my job was to talk about the Internet, to explain it, and to explain its benefits. In those few years that I was in that role, each year, I disclosed all of the relevant information, as did my employer. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From what I see, ICANN does the same. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is also acceptable for an organization to augment its staff with experts that are needed for only a short time period that are experts in communications, or in policy analysis, or in software redesign, or in Security, etc. etc. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I too wonder what the right degree of transparency is, but I suspect it is pretty close to where we are now, with a few tweaks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And for anyone who wants to spend the time that I do every year on the ICANN budget, and make a positive contribution on that front, please, please, join me and Chuck Gomes, and Jimson Olufuye and many others, such as the ccTLDs and instead of complaining about lack of transparency, read the detailed reports that we do have access to, and attend the working sessions of the community on the ICANN budget. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marilyn Cade</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><hr id="stopSpelling" class="">To: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br class="">From: <a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" class="">sam@lanfranco.net</a><br class="">Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:52:40 -0400<br class="">Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [community-finance] IANA Stewardship Transition - Project Expenses - FY16 Q3 update<br class=""><br class="">More thoughts on:<br class=""><br class="">On 16-Aug-16 12:22, parminder wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><font color="#993399" class="">I ask you; do you agree or not that ICANN should uphold these transparency standards that are upheld by public bodies?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><font class="">There are two complementary avenues for pursuing what should be ICANN’s commitment to transparency, and discussion should proceed on both fronts.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">One is try to distill a scope and depth of transparency from ICANN’s mission and vision. That includes considerations of what concepts like “in the public good”, “in the public interest” and “public governance” direct us (the multistakeholder community within ICANN) to consider in the establishment of a standard of transparency to which ICANN should aspire. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">The other avenue is to identify concrete and existing examples of a lack of transparency within the current operations of ICANN (e.g. lobbying contracts, “service” contracts, etc.) and build a remedial framework of transparency practice within ICANN.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Discussion should proceed on both fronts.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Sam L.<br class=""></font><br class=""></font><br class="">_______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>