<p dir="ltr">Thank you Brenda </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 Sep 2016 6:09 a.m., "Brenda Brewer" <<a href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The notes, recordings and transcripts for WS2
<b>SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #5</b> – 1 September 2016 will be available here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/XRKsAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>XRKsAw</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#18376a">.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1d1d1d">With kind regards,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#244185">Brenda Brewer </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1d1d1d">MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</b>-<b> </b>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Notes</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">1. Call Admin and Roll Call / <wbr>Apologies (2min- Staff)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr audio only<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">2. Welcome - Opening Remarks <wbr>(3min- SDB, FB, CLO)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: There was no <wbr>clear decision on SO/AC <wbr>accountability question at <wbr>the CCWG plenary on last <wbr>Tuesday. Will present the <wbr>slides <br>
presented at the plenary. (<wbr>presentation of slides <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59643284&preview=/59643284/61609810/update%20on%20SOAC%20Accountability%20%5BAug-2016%5D.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3b73af">https:/<wbr>/community.icann.org/pages/<wbr>viewpage.action?pageId=<wbr>59643284&preview=/59643284/<wbr>61609810/update%20on%20SOAC%<wbr>20Accountability%20%5BAug-<wbr>2016%5D.pdf</span></a> )<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ccNSO has <wbr>always sought non-member <wbr>participantion. Other SOACs <wbr>may also have other <wbr>interesting and unique <wbr>mechanisms they use.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: 2 questions <wbr>are who are we accountable to <wbr>and what are we accountable <wbr>for.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: We know SO's <wbr>are responsible to their <wbr>members per the Bylaws - what <wbr>we are looking at is do we <wbr>need to increase this <wbr>accountability.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Christopher Wilkinson: The <wbr>Bylaws are clear. What we are <wbr>talking about is the <wbr>accountability of the <wbr>delegates of the SOACs in the <wbr>new <br>
Empowered Community. The <wbr>incremental new <wbr>accountability in the new <wbr>accountability scheme in <wbr>ICANN.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: the MAR could <wbr>be used as a soft approach to <wbr>share best practices. Given <wbr>there are no other questions <wbr>let us move to the next <wbr>agenda item.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Matthew Shears:<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></strong>the issue of <wbr>scope has to be agreed - <wbr>Christopher's approach (I <wbr>understand) seeks to look at <wbr>what the new <br>
accountability requirements <wbr>post transition, but others, <wbr>including myself, believe <wbr>that this is about the <wbr>accountability of SOs and ACs <wbr>generally, not <br>
just post transition<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">3. Review (brief) of last <wbr>call #3 and any Action Items /<wbr> Business Arising (5 min- SDB,<wbr> FB)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">(skipped)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">4. Discussion (25 min)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- To whom are the SO/ACs <wbr>accountable to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- What are the SO/ACs <wbr>accountable for<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Discuss Matt's suggestion to <wbr>start from track three: "<wbr>Develop a detailed working <wbr>plan on enhancing SO and AC <wbr>accountability <br>
taking into consideration the <wbr>comments made during the <wbr>public comment period on the <wbr>Third Draft Proposal."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Googledoc: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WTRZZJ9B3Q6BHP6AlDHmoiep8NeshNpomBNM4bBXYpA/edit?ts=57ba7a43" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3b73af">https://docs.<wbr>google.com/document/d/<wbr>1WTRZZJ9B3Q6BHP6AlDHmoiep8Nesh<wbr>NpomBNM4bBXYpA/edit?ts=<wbr>57ba7a43</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: accountability <wbr>has 4 dimensions: <wbr>Transparency, Consultation, <wbr>Review, Redress. We should <wbr>consider this when <br>
considering how to scope our <wbr>work. MAR may be a <wbr>distraction, we should start <wbr>with the workplan. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: Appendix C <wbr>contains a number of elements <wbr>for ICANN when we began the <wbr>work on WS1 and it may not be <br>
reasonable to think we should <wbr>apply this to SOACs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: agree Steve. <wbr>But we have addressed and <wbr>resolved some of these <wbr>criteria in WS1 and see if <wbr>they could apply <br>
although many may not apply.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Mathew <wbr>Shear's suggestion has meritt <wbr>to explore these aspects and <wbr>should be pursued. This could <wbr>provide the basis <br>
for several sections of our <wbr>report.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: Our charter <wbr>says Review and Develop and <wbr>we have to do the reviews to <wbr>identify gaps. If you have <wbr>criteria <br>
ahead of time it makes it <wbr>easier to identify those <wbr>potential gaps.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: If we <wbr>actually capture what is <wbr>going on now and compare it <wbr>will be very useful.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Athina Fragkouli: These <wbr>should not be hard criteria - <wbr>more points of reference.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: We need to <wbr>work with the SO and ACs if <wbr>we are going to succeed. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve Delbianco: If members <wbr>from the SO and ACs could <wbr>come back at the next meeting <wbr>to present the accountability <br>
mechanisms in each of these <wbr>which are NOT in the Bylaws.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">5. AOB / Next Meeting (5min)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: Adjourned.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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