<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Kavous,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I believe what is should say is that you were asking Greg if HE was in favour of Applicable Law.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Will ensure this is amended.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Cheers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">B.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div>The statement made or the trasncript made on my behalf is WRONG</div><div> I THEREFORE CORRECT THAT</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: is in favor of Applicable Law<span></span></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-09-10 10:50 GMT+02:00 MSSI Secretariat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mssi-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">mssi-secretariat@icann.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Meeting Time Rotation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: will rotate betwe<wbr>en 1300 and 1900 slots leaving<wbr> aside the 0500. May vary <wbr>days of the week but will <wbr>avoid 1900 on Friday.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: could we shif<wbr>t 1900 to 2000?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Bernard Turcotte: Schedule wil<wbr>l be reviewed with change to <wbr>daylight savings later in the <wbr>fall.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Work Plan and Schedule Over<wbr>view (attached). Looking to <wbr>have a deliverable complete <wbr>in February 2017. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: This work plan as<wbr>sumes we are a Complex project<wbr>. Presentation of the slide.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Milton Mueller: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">this schedule <wbr>seems unrealistic to me. We ta<wbr>ke 2.5 months to develop a wor<wbr>k plan and don't talk substanc<wbr>e until December, then we <wbr>complete our "deliverable" in <wbr>only one month?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: We may be able <wbr>to get into substance by askin<wbr>g participants to contribute <wbr>to a gap analysis between the <wbr>accountability framework that <wbr>is being implemented vs its ap<wbr>plicability vs jurisdictions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:blue;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: Need a rolling li<wbr>st of action items. The first <wbr>item should be this gap analys<wbr>is.</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Farzaneh Badii: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg as to gap<wbr> analysis you say in the doc <wbr>that: I think there was a gene<wbr>ral conclusion that ICANN's <wbr>current jurisdiction didn't re<wbr>sult in any significant "gaps"<wbr> <br>
relating to ICANN accountabili<wbr>ty. Whether there is a formal <wbr>"gap analysis" is another <wbr>question, and one we need to <wbr>explore.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: Do not remember<wbr> any formal gap analysis from <wbr>WS1. This is about the <wbr>settlement of disputes <wbr>jursidiction.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: there was no formal c<wbr>onclusion in WS1 that there wa<wbr>s no gap.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> <strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kavouss Arasteh: </span></strong> was NOTa g<wbr>eneral conclusion that ICANN's<wbr> current jurisdiction didn't r<wbr>esult in any significant "gaps<wbr>" relating to ICANN accountabi<wbr>lity. Whether there is a <br>
formal "gap analysis" is anoth<wbr>er question, and one we need <wbr>to explore.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland): </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">We h<wbr>ad very general discussions - <wbr>that is what we did... <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland): </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">anyw<wbr>ay what is on the ws1 final pa<wbr>pers is what represents our ag<wbr>reements...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">agree w/Kavouss<wbr> re gap - we have to check<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Plan to Develop Detailed Wo<wbr>rk Plan & Schedule<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Plan for September/<wbr>October (see attached)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Suggestions for ove<wbr>rall Work Plan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Our Goal is a Deliv<wbr>erable <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Discussion of Scope<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Do we begin with Sc<wbr>ope?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Jordan Car<wbr>ter lightning talk suggested <wbr>being “upfront about our <wbr>interests”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Detailed Reading of<wbr> Google Doc (Staff Paper, as <wbr>revised and annotated by Membe<wbr>rs of Subgroup)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: Not in favor of Appl<wbr>icable Law?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: no issue since it<wbr> is in Annex 12.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: disputes should<wbr> include legal actions vs <wbr>ICANN in various jurisdictions<wbr>?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Milton Mueller: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">so jurisdictio<wbr>nal effects on two distinct <wbr>things: 1) accountability <wbr>mechanisms; 2) actual <wbr>operation of policies (whateve<wbr>r that means) And by 2) we <wbr>are referring <br>
primarily to dispute resolutio<wbr>n<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland)<wbr>: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">At the same time we said tha<wbr>t this refers "primarily" to <wbr>1) settlement of disputes, inc<wbr>luding choice of jurisdiction <wbr>and applicable laws,
what disputes "within ICANN" m<wbr>eans could also be useful.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: Within ICANN implies actors within IC<wbr>ANN but it would seem undluly <wbr>restrictive to say this only <wbr>includes ICANN's internal <wbr>dispute resolution processes. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland)<wbr>: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">within ICANN I guess covers<wbr> all parties affected by <wbr>ICANN decisions and which may <wbr>bring an internal claim agains<wbr>t it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: why NOT NECESSARILY?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: From WS1 recoll<wbr>ection the NECESSARILY comes <wbr>in if the gap analysis notes <wbr>that the accountability mechan<wbr>isms are broken (material <wbr>problem) because of jurisdicti<wbr>on.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Edward Morris: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">My recollection<wbr> is the same as David's<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Thanks Kavouss,<wbr> and I think that is part of o<wbr>ur task. Good question you ask<wbr>ed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Milton Mueller: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">I think many o<wbr>f these points could be best p<wbr>ursued on the list, in writing<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">David McAuley: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">+1 Milton<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Avri Doria: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">so ICANN is only i<wbr>ncorporated in one place and t<wbr>hese lesser 'registrations' do<wbr> not affect jurisdiction?
Registrations and their relati<wbr>on to incorporation are essent<wbr>ially different with respect <wbr>to jurisdictional obligations? Is so where are jurisdictional<wbr> issues related to multiple <wbr>registrations dealt with?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Vinay Kesari: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Agree with Paul.<wbr> I think ICANN has gone on rec<wbr>ord stating specifically that <wbr>local offices are subject to <wbr>local laws on issues such as <wbr>employment.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Kavouss Arasteh: best to use both emai<wbr>l list and Google doc. As to <wbr>this question is it not too <wbr>detailed at this time?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Avri Doria: what is the status<wbr> of the ICANN presence in non-<wbr>US jurisdiction?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:blue;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: Action Item - thi<wbr>s should be answered by ICANN <wbr>legal.</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Samantha Eisner: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">We have to ad<wbr>here to laws that allow us to <wbr>have offices in different loca<wbr>tions
but I can confirm that we have<wbr> not incorporated in any other<wbr> location<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Samantha Eisner: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">ICANN typical<wbr>ly is a "branch" location or <wbr>a registered foreign office <wbr>equivalent <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Jeff Neuman: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">I would like to k<wbr>now the difference between "En<wbr>gagement Centers", "HUBs", "Of<wbr>fices", etc/<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Avri Doria:</span></strong><span><b><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> </span></b></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Not incorporated?
Also not registered as some so<wbr>rt of company?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Jeff Neuman: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Is there a way to<wbr> get those definitions from IC<wbr>ANN staff?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Jeff Neuman: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">I have to admit I<wbr> never understood Fadi's disti<wbr>nctions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Samantha Eisner:</span></strong><span><b><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> </span></b></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Yes,
Jeff<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: Will start the next version of<wbr> the google doc and circulate.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Vinay Kesari: </span></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Hi Avri, many co<wbr>untries (India for example) al<wbr>low a foreign company to set <wbr>up a <br>
representative/ branch office <wbr>locally. This is not a separat<wbr>e legal entity, can't sue/ be <wbr>sued. But it <br>
requires a registration<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Creation of Scope D<wbr>ocument?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Other Potential Inputs to o<wbr>ur Work<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • More Detailed Revie<wbr>w of Lightning Talks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Pertinent Literatur<wbr>e (influenced by Scope)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"> • Experts/Legal Advic<wbr>e <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• AOB<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">• Adjourn<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">Greg Shatan: Adjourned<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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