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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2
<b>Ombudsman Subgroup Meeting #6</b> &#8211; 12 September 2016 will be available here:&nbsp;
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/vBusAw">https://community.icann.org/x/vBusAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">A copy of the
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#101C45">n</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">otes may be found below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thank you</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#101C45">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#101C45">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#111111">With kind regards,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#15205F">Brenda Brewer&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#111111">MSSI Projects &amp; Operations Assistant</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#111111">ICANN<b>
</b>-<b> </b>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:22.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">Notes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">1.&nbsp;Roll&nbsp;Call&nbsp;/&nbsp;Apologies&nbsp;&#8211;&nbsp;Welcome&nbsp;&#8211;&nbsp;Opening&nbsp;Remarks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo1;background:white">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">Number&nbsp;of&nbsp;apologies&nbsp;-&nbsp;6&nbsp;participants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">Many&nbsp;people&nbsp;getting&nbsp;ready&nbsp;for&nbsp;congressional&nbsp;hearings&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;transition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">2.&nbsp;Action&nbsp;Items&nbsp;from&nbsp;our&nbsp;last&nbsp;call&nbsp;#5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">3.&nbsp;Discuss&nbsp;the&nbsp;following&nbsp;chapters&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;document<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a.&nbsp;Dependencies&nbsp;between&nbsp;the&nbsp;sub-groups<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;Action&nbsp;Item:&nbsp;would&nbsp;ask&nbsp;that&nbsp;all&nbsp;liaisons&nbsp;to&nbsp;provide&nbsp;an&nbsp;update&nbsp;on&nbsp;possible&nbsp;dependencies&nbsp;on&nbsp;all&nbsp;calls&nbsp;going&nbsp;forward.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;b.&nbsp;ATRT2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;Many&nbsp;items&nbsp;from&nbsp;ATRT2&nbsp;recommendations&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;transferred&nbsp;to&nbsp;us.&nbsp;Would&nbsp;ask&nbsp;everyone to&nbsp;read&nbsp;the&nbsp;abstracts&nbsp;sent&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;list&nbsp;by&nbsp;Avri.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;c.&nbsp;Stress&nbsp;Tests<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;Steve&nbsp;DelBianco&nbsp;has&nbsp;provided&nbsp;2&nbsp;stress&nbsp;tests&nbsp;but&nbsp;cannot&nbsp;join&nbsp;these&nbsp;calls&nbsp;before&nbsp;September&nbsp;26.&nbsp;As&nbsp;such&nbsp;we&nbsp;will&nbsp;defer&nbsp;<br>
discussion&nbsp;of&nbsp;these&nbsp;until&nbsp;SDB&nbsp;and&nbsp;CLO&nbsp;can&nbsp;join&nbsp;the&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;to&nbsp;present&nbsp;these&nbsp;points.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;d.&nbsp;Current&nbsp;role&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;Office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Herb&nbsp;Waye:&nbsp;Discussion&nbsp;of&nbsp;PTI.&nbsp;Over&nbsp;the&nbsp;next&nbsp;3&nbsp;years&nbsp;will&nbsp;transition&nbsp;from&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;to&nbsp;being&nbsp;independent&nbsp;wrt&nbsp;HR.&nbsp;Given&nbsp;their&nbsp;ongoing&nbsp;<br>
strong&nbsp;link&nbsp;to&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;they&nbsp;should&nbsp;remain&nbsp;covered&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;Ombuds.&nbsp;None&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;written&nbsp;and&nbsp;have&nbsp;reached&nbsp;out&nbsp;Samantha&nbsp;Eisner&nbsp;to&nbsp;confirm&nbsp;this.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Ed&nbsp;Morris:&nbsp;Action&nbsp;Item&nbsp;-&nbsp;Would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;hear&nbsp;from&nbsp;Sam&nbsp;Eisner&nbsp;regarding&nbsp;the&nbsp;liability&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;case.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Chris&nbsp;LaHatte:&nbsp;Given&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;office&nbsp;only&nbsp;makes&nbsp;recommendations&nbsp;-&nbsp;never&nbsp;decisions&nbsp;-&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;no&nbsp;basis&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;suit.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Ed&nbsp;Morris:&nbsp;Disagree&nbsp;-&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;take&nbsp;too&nbsp;long&nbsp;to&nbsp;act&nbsp;on&nbsp;a&nbsp;complaint&nbsp;etc&nbsp;Looking&nbsp;forward&nbsp;to&nbsp;answer&nbsp;from&nbsp;Sam&nbsp;Eisner.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Herb&nbsp;Waye:&nbsp;We&nbsp;have&nbsp;reached&nbsp;out&nbsp;to&nbsp;Sam&nbsp;Eisner&nbsp;and&nbsp;will&nbsp;clarify&nbsp;this&nbsp;with&nbsp;her.&nbsp;PTI&nbsp;will&nbsp;have&nbsp;its&nbsp;own&nbsp;processes&nbsp;but&nbsp;unclear&nbsp;if&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;<br>
would&nbsp;apply&nbsp;to&nbsp;this.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Chris&nbsp;LaHatte:&nbsp;Ombudsman&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;an&nbsp;employee&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;but&nbsp;rather&nbsp;a&nbsp;contractor&nbsp;which&nbsp;makes&nbsp;it&nbsp;very&nbsp;different&nbsp;vs&nbsp;our&nbsp;recommendations&nbsp;-&nbsp;under&nbsp;<br>
California&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;very&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;to&nbsp;sue&nbsp;an&nbsp;Ombudsman.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Edward&nbsp;Morris<b>:&nbsp;</b>Thanks&nbsp;for&nbsp;that&nbsp;Chris&nbsp;-&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;not&nbsp;aware&nbsp;of&nbsp;that.&nbsp;Big&nbsp;differentiation.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;We have&nbsp;to&nbsp;find&nbsp;a&nbsp;way&nbsp;to&nbsp;ensure&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;service&nbsp;include&nbsp;PTI&nbsp;as&nbsp;requested&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;CWG.&nbsp;If&nbsp;it&nbsp;cannot&nbsp;be&nbsp;<br>
included&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Bylaws&nbsp;maybe&nbsp;it&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;included&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Framework&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombudsman.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Herb&nbsp;Waye:&nbsp;An&nbsp;addition&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;scope&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;office&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombuds.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;Presentation&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;document&nbsp;wrt&nbsp;ATRT&nbsp;recommendations.&nbsp;Would&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;input&nbsp;or&nbsp;comments&nbsp;on&nbsp;this.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Herb&nbsp;Waye:&nbsp;Do&nbsp;they&nbsp;want&nbsp;us&nbsp;to&nbsp;take&nbsp;over&nbsp;doing&nbsp;a&nbsp;review&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;office&nbsp;from&nbsp;ATRT?&nbsp;If&nbsp;so&nbsp;I&nbsp;could&nbsp;begin&nbsp;working&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;as&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;<br>
contacting&nbsp;people&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;industry&nbsp;who&nbsp;do&nbsp;this&nbsp;-&nbsp;but&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;dependent&nbsp;on&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;necessary&nbsp;funding.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;My&nbsp;understanding&nbsp;was&nbsp;not&nbsp;this&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;now&nbsp;uncertain&nbsp;of&nbsp;this.&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;expected&nbsp;that&nbsp;this&nbsp;group&nbsp;is&nbsp;responsible&nbsp;<br>
for&nbsp;carrying&nbsp;this&nbsp;out&nbsp;and&nbsp;not&nbsp;using&nbsp;and&nbsp;outside&nbsp;resource.&nbsp;We&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;this&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;full&nbsp;group.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Kavouss Arasteh:&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;your&nbsp;interpretation&nbsp;is&nbsp;correct&nbsp;SB&nbsp;but&nbsp;this&nbsp;small&nbsp;group&nbsp;may&nbsp;not&nbsp;be&nbsp;the&nbsp;right&nbsp;group&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;such&nbsp;and&nbsp;evaluation.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;KA&nbsp;I&nbsp;will&nbsp;report&nbsp;on&nbsp;this.&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;CCWG&nbsp;plenary.&nbsp;We&nbsp;will&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;this&nbsp;with&nbsp;both&nbsp;the&nbsp;CCWG&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;ATRT&nbsp;<br>
implementation&nbsp;team.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;would&nbsp;like&nbsp;volunteers&nbsp;for&nbsp;each&nbsp;chapter&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;sub-group&nbsp;report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">4.&nbsp;Next&nbsp;Meeting&nbsp;-&nbsp;19&nbsp;Sept&nbsp;@&nbsp;5:00&nbsp;UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Kavouss&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;What&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;difference&nbsp;between&nbsp;recommendations&nbsp;and&nbsp;advice?&nbsp;Usually&nbsp;you&nbsp;do&nbsp;one&nbsp;or&nbsp;the&nbsp;other&nbsp;not&nbsp;both.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l7 level2 lfo8;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;KA&nbsp;you&nbsp;may&nbsp;be&nbsp;correct&nbsp;they&nbsp;may&nbsp;be&nbsp;merged&nbsp;later&nbsp;on.&nbsp;Currently&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;separate&nbsp;topics.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l7 level2 lfo8;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Herb&nbsp;Waye:&nbsp;Advice&nbsp;or&nbsp;Advocate&nbsp;mix-up?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l7 level2 lfo8;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;possible&nbsp;in&nbsp;some&nbsp;cases&nbsp;but&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;difference.&nbsp;We&nbsp;will&nbsp;see&nbsp;as&nbsp;our&nbsp;discussions&nbsp;advance.&nbsp;We&nbsp;are&nbsp;talking&nbsp;about&nbsp;<br>
advice&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ombuds&nbsp;office&nbsp;and&nbsp;not&nbsp;advice&nbsp;from&nbsp;them.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sebastien&nbsp;Bachollet:&nbsp;Adjourned.&nbsp;Would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;document&nbsp;ready&nbsp;for&nbsp;input&nbsp;prior&nbsp;to&nbsp;Hyderabad.-&nbsp;for&nbsp;this&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;everyone&nbsp;to&nbsp;contribute.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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