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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2
<b>Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #3</b> – 14 September 2016 will be available here:&nbsp;
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/shusAw">https://community.icann.org/x/shusAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A copy of the
<span style="color:#18376A">n</span>otes may be found below.</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you<span style="color:#18376A">.</span></span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1D1D">With kind regards,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#244185">Brenda Brewer&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</b>-<b> </b>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Notes (BT):</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Relevant&nbsp;web&nbsp;pages:</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s2"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">General&nbsp;Jurisdiction&nbsp;wiki&nbsp;<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction"><span class="s3"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction</span></span></a>&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s2"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">This&nbsp;meeting:&nbsp;<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=61610930"><span class="s3"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=61610930</span></span></a></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">1.&nbsp;Welcome,&nbsp;attendance,&nbsp;SOIs,&nbsp;etc.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Vinay&nbsp;Kesari:&nbsp;no&nbsp;changes.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">2.&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;recently&nbsp;released&nbsp;IANA&nbsp;Stewardship&nbsp;Q&amp;A,&nbsp;particularly&nbsp;#7</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;(from&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;response)&nbsp;Will&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;relocate&nbsp;its&nbsp;headquarters&nbsp;outside&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;United&nbsp;States&nbsp;after&nbsp;the&nbsp;transition?No.&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;will&nbsp;not&nbsp;relocate&nbsp;its&nbsp;corporate&nbsp;headquarters&nbsp;location&nbsp;after&nbsp;the&nbsp;transition.&nbsp;The&nbsp;transition&nbsp;proposal&nbsp;clearly&nbsp;states&nbsp;[PDF,&nbsp;2.32&nbsp;MB]&nbsp;that&nbsp;&quot;the&nbsp;legal&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;in&nbsp;which&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;resides&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;remain&nbsp;unchanged.&quot;&nbsp;California&nbsp;law&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;basis&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;new&nbsp;mechanisms&nbsp;created&nbsp;to&nbsp;empower&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;community&nbsp;and&nbsp;hold&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;the&nbsp;organization,&nbsp;Board&nbsp;and&nbsp;community,&nbsp;accountable.&nbsp;In&nbsp;addition,&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;Articles&nbsp;of&nbsp;Incorporation&nbsp;are&nbsp;filed&nbsp;under&nbsp;California&nbsp;law,&nbsp;and&nbsp;its&nbsp;Bylaws&nbsp;state&nbsp;that&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;headquarters&nbsp;are&nbsp;in&nbsp;California.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Vinay&nbsp;Kesari:&nbsp;any&nbsp;comments?</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tijani&nbsp;Ben&nbsp;Jemaa:&nbsp;What&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;value&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;for&nbsp;our&nbsp;work?&nbsp;This&nbsp;does&nbsp;not&nbsp;seem&nbsp;to&nbsp;add&nbsp;anything&nbsp;for&nbsp;us.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Christopher&nbsp;Wilkinson:&nbsp;Concerned&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;activities&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Sidley&nbsp;law&nbsp;form&nbsp;-&nbsp;codifying&nbsp;the&nbsp;relationships&nbsp;between&nbsp;all&nbsp;parts&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;seems&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;significantly&nbsp;&nbsp;too&nbsp;much.&nbsp;This&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;cause&nbsp;for&nbsp;thinking&nbsp;of&nbsp;moving&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;US&nbsp;jurisdiction.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Erich&nbsp;Schweighofer:</span></span><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Christopher&nbsp;Wilkinson&nbsp;is&nbsp;right:&nbsp;a&nbsp;benevolent&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;without&nbsp;much&nbsp;interference&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;key&nbsp;element.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tatiana&nbsp;Tropina:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;never&nbsp;thought&nbsp;that&nbsp;tjis&nbsp;group&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;WS2&nbsp;was&nbsp;supposed&nbsp;to&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;the&nbsp;issue&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;corporation...&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva:&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;recently&nbsp;released&nbsp;IANA&nbsp;Stewardship&nbsp;Q&amp;A&nbsp;is&nbsp;unclear&nbsp;if&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;position&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;community&nbsp;or&nbsp;a&nbsp;single&nbsp;Board&nbsp;member.&nbsp;Question&nbsp;7&nbsp;should&nbsp;not&nbsp;be&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;to&nbsp;our&nbsp;discussion.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;admit&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;lost.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;only&nbsp;paying&nbsp;attention&nbsp;to&nbsp;WS2&nbsp;items&nbsp;so&nbsp;if&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;other&nbsp;documents&nbsp;I&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;review,&nbsp;can&nbsp;we&nbsp;please&nbsp;post&nbsp;those&nbsp;docs</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Steve&nbsp;DelBianco&nbsp;[GNSO&nbsp;-&nbsp;CSG]:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Bylaws&nbsp;and&nbsp;Articles&nbsp;have&nbsp;ALWAYS&nbsp;said&nbsp;California&nbsp;corporation&nbsp;and&nbsp;location.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;change&nbsp;that.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But&nbsp;we&nbsp;did&nbsp;give&nbsp;the&nbsp;empowered&nbsp;community&nbsp;the&nbsp;ability&nbsp;to&nbsp;block&nbsp;bylaws&nbsp;change,&nbsp;and&nbsp;to&nbsp;approve&nbsp;any&nbsp;change&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;Articles.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavous&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;We&nbsp;should&nbsp;not&nbsp;be&nbsp;discussing&nbsp;&nbsp;this&nbsp;Q&amp;A&nbsp;question&nbsp;as&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;misleading.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tijani&nbsp;Ben&nbsp;Jemaa:&nbsp;let&nbsp;us&nbsp;focus&nbsp;on&nbsp;working&nbsp;on&nbsp;our&nbsp;draft&nbsp;document.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Vinay&nbsp;Kesari:&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;Q&amp;A&nbsp;question&nbsp;7&nbsp;is&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;input.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;All&nbsp;CWG&nbsp;related&nbsp;issues&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;scope&nbsp;for&nbsp;this&nbsp;group.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavous&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;Agree&nbsp;with&nbsp;respect&nbsp;to&nbsp;CWG.&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva:&nbsp;Why&nbsp;misleading&nbsp;-&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&nbsp;limits&nbsp;the&nbsp;issue&nbsp;of&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;to&nbsp;California&nbsp;law&nbsp;and&nbsp;brings&nbsp;no&nbsp;new&nbsp;information&nbsp;to&nbsp;our&nbsp;discussion.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Steve&nbsp;DelBianco&nbsp;[GNSO&nbsp;-&nbsp;CSG]:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;--&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;contracts&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;specified&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;contract.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Not&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;thing&nbsp;as&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;location</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Gerg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;Is&nbsp;jursidiction&nbsp;oof&nbsp;headquarters&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;a&nbsp;topic&nbsp;for&nbsp;this&nbsp;group?</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva:&nbsp;Yes&nbsp;-&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;important&nbsp;no&nbsp;to&nbsp;pre-judge&nbsp;the&nbsp;answers&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;multi-layer&nbsp;discussions.&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">J</span></span><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">eff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;believe&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;incorporation&nbsp;is&nbsp;in&nbsp;scope&nbsp;for&nbsp;this&nbsp;subgroup</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tatiana&nbsp;Tropina:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;also&nbsp;don't&nbsp;believe&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;incorporation&nbsp;is&nbsp;for&nbsp;this&nbsp;group&nbsp;to&nbsp;decide&nbsp;.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">As&nbsp;Mr.&nbsp;Marby&nbsp;said&nbsp;during&nbsp;the&nbsp;testimony&nbsp;today,&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;entired&nbsp;new&nbsp;structure&nbsp;and&nbsp;empowered&nbsp;community&nbsp;is&nbsp;all&nbsp;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;California&nbsp;and&nbsp;California&nbsp;law.&nbsp;If&nbsp;we&nbsp;deviate&nbsp;from&nbsp;that,&nbsp;then&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;entire&nbsp;model&nbsp;and&nbsp;everything&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;worked&nbsp;on&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;past&nbsp;number&nbsp;of&nbsp;years&nbsp;gets&nbsp;thrown&nbsp;out&nbsp;the&nbsp;window.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;Obviously&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;difference&nbsp;of&nbsp;opinion&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&nbsp;should&nbsp;note&nbsp;that&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;an&nbsp;open&nbsp;question&nbsp;which&nbsp;we&nbsp;will&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;resolve&nbsp;soon.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Robin&nbsp;Gross:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;and&nbsp;Tatiana&nbsp;are&nbsp;right.&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;can't&nbsp;redo&nbsp;all&nbsp;those&nbsp;reforms&nbsp;at&nbsp;this&nbsp;point.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavous&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;Location&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;head&nbsp;office&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;open&nbsp;for&nbsp;discussion.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;feel&nbsp;we&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;so&nbsp;absolute&nbsp;-&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;location&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;fact.&nbsp;We&nbsp;always&nbsp;said&nbsp;we&nbsp;would&nbsp;look&nbsp;at&nbsp;whether&nbsp;that&nbsp;means&nbsp;any&nbsp;problem.&nbsp;If&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;such&nbsp;a&nbsp;problem,&nbsp;that&nbsp;does&nbsp;not&nbsp;mean&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;suddenly&nbsp;change&nbsp;the&nbsp;location,&nbsp;but&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;look&nbsp;for&nbsp;solutions&nbsp;that&nbsp;are&nbsp;reasonable...</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva&nbsp;[GAC&nbsp;Brasil]:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">All&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;defending&nbsp;is&nbsp;an&nbsp;open&nbsp;approach&nbsp;to&nbsp;this&nbsp;topic&nbsp;and&nbsp;thereby&nbsp;not&nbsp;antecipate&nbsp;any&nbsp;results.&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Edward&nbsp;Morris:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Section&nbsp;24.1&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;new&nbsp;Bylaws&nbsp;puts&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;business&nbsp;in&nbsp;Los&nbsp;Angeles,&nbsp;California&nbsp;but&nbsp;does&nbsp;allow&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;establishent&nbsp;of&nbsp;offices&nbsp;elsewhere.&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tijani&nbsp;Ben&nbsp;Jemaa:&nbsp;This&nbsp;Q&amp;A&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;to&nbsp;our&nbsp;work&nbsp;let&nbsp;us&nbsp;focus&nbsp;on&nbsp;our&nbsp;work.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">anyway,&nbsp;the&nbsp;present&nbsp;and&nbsp;real&nbsp;location&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;place&nbsp;called&nbsp;&quot;adobe&nbsp;connect&quot;&nbsp;:P</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">3.&nbsp;Scope&nbsp;discussion:</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;Continue&nbsp;Detailed&nbsp;Reading&nbsp;of&nbsp;Google&nbsp;Doc&nbsp;(Staff&nbsp;Paper,&nbsp;as&nbsp;revised&nbsp;and&nbsp;annotated&nbsp;by&nbsp;Members&nbsp;of&nbsp;Subgroup)</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;increase&nbsp;contributions.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavous&nbsp;Arateh:&nbsp;what&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;mean&nbsp;by&nbsp;gaps.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;this&nbsp;language&nbsp;is&nbsp;in&nbsp;Recommendation&nbsp;12&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;WS1&nbsp;report.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;Remove&nbsp;BUT&nbsp;NOT&nbsp;NECESSARILY&nbsp;and&nbsp;agree&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;cannot&nbsp;get&nbsp;into&nbsp;where&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;is&nbsp;incorporated.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;sure&nbsp;whether&nbsp;this&nbsp;subgroup&nbsp;is&nbsp;empowered&nbsp;to&nbsp;change&nbsp;the&nbsp;&quot;job&nbsp;description&quot;&nbsp;established&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;full&nbsp;CCWG...&nbsp;that's&nbsp;why&nbsp;I&nbsp;always&nbsp;suggested&nbsp;to&nbsp;start&nbsp;with&nbsp;annex&nbsp;12&nbsp;and&nbsp;its&nbsp;wording,&nbsp;without&nbsp;picking&nbsp;and&nbsp;choosing&nbsp;from&nbsp;it.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Perhaps&nbsp;a&nbsp;better&nbsp;way&nbsp;to&nbsp;state&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;&quot;What&nbsp;are&nbsp;the&nbsp;issues&nbsp;that&nbsp;arise&nbsp;due&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;jurisdiction&nbsp;in&nbsp;which&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;is&nbsp;located&quot;?</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">I&nbsp;would&nbsp;agree&nbsp;with&nbsp;that</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva:&nbsp;what&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;difference&nbsp;between&nbsp;the&nbsp;accountability&nbsp;requirements&nbsp;from&nbsp;WS1&nbsp;vs&nbsp;the&nbsp;implementation.&nbsp;Also&nbsp;we&nbsp;cannot&nbsp;change&nbsp;the&nbsp;scope&nbsp;provided&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;full&nbsp;CCWG.&nbsp;We&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;consider&nbsp;all&nbsp;aspects&nbsp;of&nbsp;jurisdiction.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">But&nbsp;as&nbsp;said,&nbsp;location&nbsp;is&nbsp;one&nbsp;aspect&nbsp;-&nbsp;the&nbsp;venue&nbsp;and&nbsp;character&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;arbitration&nbsp;mechanisms&nbsp;and&nbsp;litigation&nbsp;venues,&nbsp;as&nbsp;well&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;applicable&nbsp;law&nbsp;to&nbsp;disputes&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;important&nbsp;issues</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Can&nbsp;you&nbsp;point&nbsp;me&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;exact&nbsp;location&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;WS1&nbsp;final&nbsp;report&nbsp;which&nbsp;states&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;remain&nbsp;open&nbsp;to&nbsp;consider&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;where&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;is&nbsp;incorporated?</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;obviously&nbsp;two&nbsp;views&nbsp;vs&nbsp;location&nbsp;of&nbsp;incorporation.&nbsp;We&nbsp;may&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;bring&nbsp;this&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;plenary&nbsp;if&nbsp;we&nbsp;cannot&nbsp;resolve&nbsp;this&nbsp;ourselves.&nbsp;We&nbsp;have&nbsp;two&nbsp;significant&nbsp;issues&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;continue&nbsp;to&nbsp;discuss:&nbsp;Should&nbsp;the&nbsp;scope&nbsp;include&nbsp;where&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;is&nbsp;incorporated&nbsp;and&nbsp;what&nbsp;a&nbsp;GAP&nbsp;analysis&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;case.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">agree&nbsp;with&nbsp;Greg:&nbsp;some&nbsp;questions,&nbsp;especially&nbsp;if&nbsp;they&nbsp;mean&nbsp;to&nbsp;change&nbsp;text&nbsp;agreed&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;CCWG&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;community&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;whole&nbsp;in&nbsp;Marrakech,&nbsp;at&nbsp;least&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;go&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;plenary</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">And&nbsp;my&nbsp;proposal&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;talk&nbsp;more&nbsp;about&nbsp;the&nbsp;incorporation&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;reasons&nbsp;Mr.&nbsp;Marby&nbsp;testified&nbsp;today</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">And&nbsp;because&nbsp;that&nbsp;would&nbsp;overturn&nbsp;everything&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;done&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;past&nbsp;several&nbsp;years</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavouss&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">If&nbsp;we&nbsp;recosider&nbsp;the&nbsp;location&nbsp;all&nbsp;assumption&nbsp;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;which&nbsp;the&nbsp;&quot;&nbsp;Sigle&nbsp;Designator2&nbsp;was&nbsp;adopted&nbsp;will&nbsp;disappear&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&nbsp;would&nbsp;be&nbsp;sent&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;square&nbsp;one</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Pedro&nbsp;da&nbsp;Silva:&nbsp;People&nbsp;seem&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;concerned&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;even&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;this&nbsp;-&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;understand&nbsp;how&nbsp;ICANN's&nbsp;jursidiction&nbsp;interferes&nbsp;with&nbsp;its&nbsp;work.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Kavouss&nbsp;Arasteh:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Location&nbsp;of&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;IS&nbsp;DIFFERNT&nbsp;FROM&nbsp;JURISDICTION</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">@Kavouss&nbsp;-&nbsp;agreed.&nbsp;&nbsp;And&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;thing&nbsp;as&nbsp;&quot;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;incorporation&quot;</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Jeff&nbsp;Neuman:&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">But&nbsp;I&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;believe&nbsp;we&nbsp;can&nbsp;or&nbsp;should&nbsp;touch&nbsp;incorporation</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">jorge&nbsp;cancio&nbsp;(GAC&nbsp;Switzerland):&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">First&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;assess&nbsp;problems&nbsp;-&nbsp;of&nbsp;all&nbsp;kinds.&nbsp;Second&nbsp;is&nbsp;looking&nbsp;to&nbsp;meaningful,&nbsp;reasonable&nbsp;means&nbsp;to&nbsp;adress&nbsp;such&nbsp;problems...</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Tijani&nbsp;Ben&nbsp;Jemaa:&nbsp;Why&nbsp;do&nbsp;we&nbsp;keep&nbsp;working&nbsp;with&nbsp;Google&nbsp;docs&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;acceptable&nbsp;to&nbsp;all.&nbsp;We&nbsp;should&nbsp;work&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;Wiki.&nbsp;Also&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;start&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;multi-layer&nbsp;jurisdiction.&nbsp;We&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;agree&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;layers.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;We&nbsp;can&nbsp;try&nbsp;to&nbsp;Wiki&nbsp;tool&nbsp;for&nbsp;one&nbsp;aspect&nbsp;such&nbsp;-&nbsp;maybe&nbsp;GAP&nbsp;analysis.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;Pertinent&nbsp;Literature&nbsp;(influenced&nbsp;by&nbsp;Scope)</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;Experts/Legal&nbsp;Advice</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">5.&nbsp;AOB</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">6.&nbsp;Upcoming&nbsp;Meetings</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="s1"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg&nbsp;Shatan:&nbsp;next&nbsp;meeting&nbsp;is&nbsp;21&nbsp;Sept.&nbsp;1300UTC</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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