<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And of course, the NGO known as ISO should not be confused with the IGO known as ISO (the <a href="http://www.isosugar.org/">International Sugar Organization</a>).</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Christopher Wilkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">And since everyone is joining in the fun…<div><br></div><div>ISO stands for the <a href="http://www.iso.org/iso/home.html" target="_blank">International Organisation for Standardisation</a>,</div><div>which is, of course, not the International Standards Organisation!</div><div>(Perhaps those should have been spelt with a Z.)</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>;-))<span class="m_-386021343289293340Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>CW</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 30 Sep 2016, at 19:43, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" target="_blank">sam@lanfranco.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-386021343289293340Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<font color="#660000">Greg is right, GMT has gone domestic and is
used in most of
the UK in the winter. In the summer they uses British Summer Time
(BST=UTC+1). <br>
Coordinated
Universal Time is a reference time and not a time zone. Why is it
called UTC
and not its acronym CUT? <br>
That was the work of our friends at the ITU. <span> </span>ITC is a compromise between the
English CUT
and the French TUC. <br>
Good ITU has tasks to keep it busy. </font><u></u><u></u><br>
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<div class="m_-386021343289293340moz-cite-prefix">On 9/30/2016 9:09 AM, Greg Shatan
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<blockquote type="cite">18:30 UTC.<span></span><br>
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On Friday, September 30, 2016, Nigel Roberts <<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Depends what
you mean by GMT (it's often misunderstood -- GMT and UTC are the
same thing).<br>
<br>
So you are technically correct (although we don't use the term
GMT anymore except during the winter-time).<br>
<br>
But GMT is NOT the same as "UK time" - that is "BST" right now.<br>
<br>
So, if I understand this correctly, this will take place at 7:30
PM UK and Ireland time, and 8:30 PM in Central Europe.<br>
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On 30/09/16 12:51, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:<br>
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Continuing Resolution passed. Lawsuit filed in Texas:<br>
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I saw a tweet from ISOC to that effect but I don’t have
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I heard the Rider preventing the IANA transition is OUT of the
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Milton, I'm glad to see there's now been lots of responses to
Ted Cruz's<br>
spin and hopefully this debunking will hit Trump's peddling as
well. They<br>
probably won't learn to stop peddling lies but at least
they've<br>
underestimated some knowledgeable people within ICANN, who are
able to<br>
describe the IANA transition in layman's terms.<br>
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I learned a couple of things from that article, too.. =)<br>
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On 22 September 2016 at 18:37, Martin Boyle <<a>Martin.Boyle@nominet.uk</a><br>
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> wrote:<br>
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Sorry for the delay, Nigel.<br>
<br>
I agree with your conclusion.<br>
<br>
As you note, the .int TLD is quite well identified other than
for the<br>
international databases: there is no ambiguity in scope for
organizations<br>
established by international treaties.<br>
<br>
If I have understood correctly, international databases were
transferred to<br>
be included under .arpa some long time ago.<br>
<br>
Either way, I see no reason why .int should be opened up
beyond<br>
organizations established by international treaty at this
stage and<br>
certainly not without a properly constituted policy
development process<br>
(which would need to establish a process for appointing a new
operator).<br>
<br>
None of this, of course, nullifies your conclusion!<br>
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The only reference is descriptive rather than policy setting.
.INT predates<br>
RFC1591.<br>
<br>
It says, simply "This domain is for organizations established
by<br>
international treaties, or international databases". (The
latter term is<br>
undefined, but includes telephony applications).<br>
<br>
You will find this text alongside all the other (at the time)
existing<br>
generic domains as follows.<br>
<br>
Much of what is written below has been changed, and much of
what has been<br>
changed was changed outside ICANN.<br>
<br>
I would be interested to know which policy decision classified
some of the<br>
gTLDs in this list as "dehors ICANN", and which within.<br>
<br>
But as two of the gTLDs described in RFC 1591 are currently
extremely<br>
sensitive (MIL and GOV),from what I heard in the Senate
hearing, perhaps its<br>
best not to ask for an answer to this until after the end of
the month??<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
World Wide Generic Domains:<br>
<br>
COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities,
that is<br>
companies. This domain has grown very large and
there is<br>
concern about the administrative load and system
performance if<br>
the current growth pattern is continued.
Consideration is<br>
being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only
allow future<br>
commercial registrations in the subdomains.<br>
<br>
EDU - This domain was originally intended for all
educational<br>
institutions. Many Universities, colleges,
schools,<br>
educational service organizations, and educational
consortia<br>
have registered here. More recently a decision has
been taken<br>
to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges
and<br>
universities. Schools and 2-year colleges will be
registered<br>
in the country domains (see US Domain, especially
K12 and CC,<br>
below).1<br>
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NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers
of network<br>
providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the<br>
administrative computers, and the network node
computers. The<br>
customers of the network provider would have domain
names of<br>
their own (not in the NET TLD).<br>
<br>
ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD
for<br>
organizations that didn't fit anywhere else. Some
non-<br>
government organizations may fit here.<br>
<br>
INT - This domain is for organizations established by
international<br>
treaties, or international databases.<br>
<br>
United States Only Generic Domains:<br>
<br>
GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of
government<br>
office or agency. More recently a decision was
taken to<br>
register only agencies of the US Federal government
in this<br>
domain. State and local agencies are registered in
the<br>
country<br>
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Postel
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RFC 1591 Domain Name System Structure and Delegation
March 1994<br>
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<br>
domains (see US Domain, below).<br>
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MIL - This domain is used by the US military.<br>
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