18:30 UTC.<span></span><br><br>On Friday, September 30, 2016, Nigel Roberts <<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net">nigel@channelisles.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Depends what you mean by GMT (it's often misunderstood -- GMT and UTC are the same thing).<br>
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So you are technically correct (although we don't use the term GMT anymore except during the winter-time).<br>
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But GMT is NOT the same as "UK time" - that is "BST" right now.<br>
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So, if I understand this correctly, this will take place at 7:30 PM UK and Ireland time, and 8:30 PM in Central Europe.<br>
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On 30/09/16 12:51, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:<br>
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Hearing in the case is scheduled for 130 PM Central Time (I think that is<br>
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Continuing Resolution passed. Lawsuit filed in Texas:<br>
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Yes but things could still change.<br>
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I saw a tweet from ISOC to that effect but I don’t have confirmation.<br>
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I heard the Rider preventing the IANA transition is OUT of the current<br>
Continuing Resolution. Can Steve or Becky confirm?<br>
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Milton, I'm glad to see there's now been lots of responses to Ted Cruz's<br>
spin and hopefully this debunking will hit Trump's peddling as well. They<br>
probably won't learn to stop peddling lies but at least they've<br>
underestimated some knowledgeable people within ICANN, who are able to<br>
describe the IANA transition in layman's terms.<br>
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I learned a couple of things from that article, too.. =)<br>
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On 22 September 2016 at 18:37, Martin Boyle <<a>Martin.Boyle@nominet.uk</a><br>
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Sorry for the delay, Nigel.<br>
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I agree with your conclusion.<br>
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As you note, the .int TLD is quite well identified other than for the<br>
international databases: there is no ambiguity in scope for organizations<br>
established by international treaties.<br>
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If I have understood correctly, international databases were transferred to<br>
be included under .arpa some long time ago.<br>
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Either way, I see no reason why .int should be opened up beyond<br>
organizations established by international treaty at this stage and<br>
certainly not without a properly constituted policy development process<br>
(which would need to establish a process for appointing a new operator).<br>
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None of this, of course, nullifies your conclusion!<br>
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The only reference is descriptive rather than policy setting. .INT predates<br>
RFC1591.<br>
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It says, simply "This domain is for organizations established by<br>
international treaties, or international databases". (The latter term is<br>
undefined, but includes telephony applications).<br>
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You will find this text alongside all the other (at the time) existing<br>
generic domains as follows.<br>
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Much of what is written below has been changed, and much of what has been<br>
changed was changed outside ICANN.<br>
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I would be interested to know which policy decision classified some of the<br>
gTLDs in this list as "dehors ICANN", and which within.<br>
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But as two of the gTLDs described in RFC 1591 are currently extremely<br>
sensitive (MIL and GOV),from what I heard in the Senate hearing, perhaps its<br>
best not to ask for an answer to this until after the end of the month??<br>
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World Wide Generic Domains:<br>
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COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is<br>
companies. This domain has grown very large and there is<br>
concern about the administrative load and system performance if<br>
the current growth pattern is continued. Consideration is<br>
being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future<br>
commercial registrations in the subdomains.<br>
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EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational<br>
institutions. Many Universities, colleges, schools,<br>
educational service organizations, and educational consortia<br>
have registered here. More recently a decision has been taken<br>
to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and<br>
universities. Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered<br>
in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,<br>
below).1<br>
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NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network<br>
providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the<br>
administrative computers, and the network node computers. The<br>
customers of the network provider would have domain names of<br>
their own (not in the NET TLD).<br>
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ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for<br>
organizations that didn't fit anywhere else. Some non-<br>
government organizations may fit here.<br>
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INT - This domain is for organizations established by international<br>
treaties, or international databases.<br>
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United States Only Generic Domains:<br>
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GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government<br>
office or agency. More recently a decision was taken to<br>
register only agencies of the US Federal government in this<br>
domain. State and local agencies are registered in the<br>
country<br>
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Postel [Page 2]<br>
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RFC 1591 Domain Name System Structure and Delegation March 1994<br>
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domains (see US Domain, below).<br>
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MIL - This domain is used by the US military.<br>
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