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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the feedback, Christopher.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regarding your comments about “relations with governments,” the proactive disclosure recommendations concerning ICANN interactions with governments is intended
to cover engagements that are not covered by U.S. lobbying disclosure law. Indeed, these disclosures are meant to be in addition to the U.S. federal lobbying activity ICANN currently discloses and it should not be implied that these additional interactions
are necessarily “lobbying.” Apologies for any confusion. The goal is to provide additional clarity and insight into ICANN’s interactions with the U.S. government that don’t qualify as “lobbying” in the U.S. as well as interactions with non-U.S. governments
that are not otherwise disclosed. The disclosure recommendations are not meant to encompass ICANN-GAC engagement on policy matters being discussed within the ICANN PDP WGs. Those interactions are generally documented and available for review by the community
(“otherwise disclosed,” but if I am wrong I stand to be corrected). If greater clarity is needed in this regard, I am open to word-smithing, but I don’t think a wholesale deletion of the phrase below is necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As for FN 2, I am not beholden to keeping it, but it does serve as a reminder as to why greater transparency in this regard is desired by the community (and goes
to the motivation from WS 1 for this line of disclosure). The merits (and results) of such interactions are not relevant to this discussion – just that interactions such as those are documented and disclosed. Perhaps an alternative would be to provide a
hypothetical scenario – e.g., ICANN undertaking an advocacy campaign at the ITU to speak to the benefits of the DNS in relation to Digital Object Architecture.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks again for taking the time to read and comment. The subgroup will be discussing the report and feedback such as yours during our call tomorrow, Dec. 15,
at 1900 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Karanicolas<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] WS2 Transparency Report: Draft 2<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good evening:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thankyou. I have read the report and have a few comments.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The draft report has much to recommend it, although the full implementation of all the recommendations could give rise to uncertainties and ambiguities. Also, the
<b>costs of implementation</b> have not been addressed. Monitoring and Evaluation of transparency (among other desirable objectives) requires staff time and other resources. A proportionate balance has to be found; if this report does not help to find that
balance, then that responsibility will inevitably pass to the budgetary procedure and to the ICANN Board. Thus the recommendations would be necessarily qualified by considerations outside the policy described by the report. Is that intended?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The report does not make clear whether 'ICANN' refers only to the Board and the executive staff, or whether it addresses the transparency of the ICANN community as a whole. Since the Transition has given rise
to a significant transfer of power and policy to the Empowered Community, it is worth asking whether and to what extent the desired transparency policy should apply to them as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Regarding <b>procurement policy</b>, the report appears to ignore the discussion that has already taken place in the SO/AC Accountability working group. ICANN has a procurement policy; it would be preferable
to comment on the existing policy (in detail if necessary) rather than to proceed on the basis that ICANN does not have one.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Regarding <b>relations with governments</b>, the report goes too far. Large scale lobbying is one thing, and should be reported. Unfortunately it seems to be necessary in certain contexts. However the report
appears to wish to discourage and report upon all formal – and informal – conversations between ICANN representatives and participants and government officials. Thus we have (twice):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">“…<i>these proactive disclosure recommendations are intended to capture any and all internal and external persons or entities informing or influencing governments on matters
of public policy that are not otherwise disclosed …”</i></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">ICANN, among others, have spent nearly two decades encouraging governments to participate as stakeholders in their own right. The Transition has reinforced that principle. As a result the GAC now has 160 plus
members, and increasing numbers of government officials are indeed present throughout the community. If all those communications are to be assimilated by extension into 'lobbying' then that would be quite damaging. I am sure that some would say that here I
am reading too much between the lines, but unfortunately the above recommendation is quite explicit. Please delete it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Regarding <b>Brazil and China,</b> I recommend deleting footnote 2. It hardly adds to the dignity of ICANN's future relationships with those and other governments. Personally I do not share the 'angst' that
has apparently been expressed (although I have only ever heard it repeated indirectly). Furthermore, if the bottom line is that Net Mundial in São Paulo should not have taken place, then that is clearly wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I trust that this is helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS:<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>For ease of future reference, I recommend numbering the paragraphs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12 Dec 2016, at 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org">michael@law-democracy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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In preparation for Wednesday's plenary, we're pleased to enclose a<br>
second draft of the WS2 Transparency Subgroup report and<br>
recommendations.<br>
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The whistleblower protection section is largely unchanged from the<br>
last section, as is the background discussion. The DIDP has a few new<br>
recommendations, stemming from the discussions that took place at<br>
ICANN 57. Also, we went back to the four subthemes as originally<br>
conceived, replacing the broader "proactive disclosure" section with<br>
more targeted sections on "transparency of interactions with<br>
governments" and "transparency of board deliberations". The former is<br>
largely unchanged from the last draft, while the latter is new.<br>
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Happy reading!<br>
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Best,<br>
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Michael Karanicolas<br>
Senior Legal Officer<br>
Centre for Law and Democracy<br>
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