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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability
<b>WS2_ CCWG Diversity Subgroup, Meeting #7</b> – <b>20 December</b> <b>2016</b> will be available here:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">A copy of the notes from the meeting are below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#002060">Kind Regards,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#002060">Yvette Guigneaux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#002060">Multi-Stakeholder & Strategic Initiative Asst.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Notes (including relevant parts of chat):</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1. Roll Call</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Roll call will be taken from the AC room.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">2. Review of Actions items</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">• Action items are listed on the Diversity wiki page here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Diversity"><span style="color:blue">https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Diversity</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Data collection: action item still in progress<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Call for volunteers: we received 2 responses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Straw man document: more dicussions needed</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">3. Discussion Topics- third reading of second version of strawman document</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpXaGckf9IIYGgPKdMhBgKe8gzwruuCHgvXiz-DwOOM/edit">
<span style="color:blue">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpXaGckf9IIYGgPKdMhBgKe8gzwruuCHgvXiz-DwOOM/edit</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Fiona gave a summary of the elements discussed in previous meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Fiona: one topic I'd like to focus on is the diversity of ICANN staff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Rafik: we can organize a meeting with ICANN staff within the next month to discuss the diversity data they collect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Rafik: on gender, we should not be limiting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Should we cover PTI as well in terms of diversity?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Sebastien: diversity should be taken into account all around, PTI, CSC, review teams etc. It was in the WS1 document. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Rafik: it may be good to highlight the different entities / structures to make it clear. </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: </b>We should seek a better balance between all languages. I therefore suggest that point 2.2 is worded in the following way: 2.2 Language: All languages should be represented in ICANN as much as possible if the organization is to position itself as a global multi-stakeholder entity. There is a need for a better balance between all languages , including the seven official languages at ICANN – English, Arabic, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese, French and Russian. With ICANN managing the IANA functions that offers IDN services to entities who do not use any of the 7 official languages it is important that ICANN improves on way of communicating to this group of stakeholders<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Lito Ibarra: </b>When talking about collecting data regarding aspects such as age or physical ability, should we consider any privacy concerns?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Sebastien: as an example, I couldn't find any data regarding the age of ICANN board members. It would be good to know this information. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Rafik: we can start by finding out what data is available, and then we can see if we want to add to that. It may raise privacy issues, we'll have to keep that in mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Rachel Pollack: </b>@Rafik, yes, data collection rules vary significantly by country. For example, in France, one cannot collect ethnic statistics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Rachel Pollack: </b>Should we mention ICANN's commitment to multi-lingualism To clarify, I just meant that ICANN has often portrayed IDNs as an effort to promote multilingualism and a multi-lingual Internet. For example: </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_collaborating-2Dtowards-2Da-2Dtruly-2Dmultilingual-2Dinternet&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=qAw3d8Spr7VGLw20GFjrgsQexjwK4UEiYd44j1873dQ&s=bmL99dgWRzCTXhfWy9_EOTz-gk8mj_9MLJCbj0CnMuM&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/collaborating-towards-a-truly-multilingual-internet[icann.org]</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_celebrating-2Da-2Dmajor-2Dcommunity-2Ddriven-2Dmilestone-2Din-2Denabling-2Dmultilingual-2Dtop-2Dlevel-2Ddomains&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=qAw3d8Spr7VGLw20GFjrgsQexjwK4UEiYd44j1873dQ&s=EfTBkqEF5gG2-B_a0TuQYsdDc64aqR8WbLG840mMVBk&e=" target="_blank">
<span style="color:blue">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/celebrating-a-major-community-driven-milestone-in-enabling-multilingual-top-level-domains[icann.org]</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>RAHMOUNI: </b>for the multi-lingualism, we can also inspire our doucment from the work of the UNESCO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Rachel Pollack: </b>@Rahmouni, this might have some helpful information: </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.unesco.org_new_en_communication-2Dand-2Dinformation_access-2Dto-2Dknowledge_linguistic-2Ddiversity-2Dand-2Dmultilingualism-2Don-2Dinternet_internationalized-2Ddomain-2Dnames&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=qAw3d8Spr7VGLw20GFjrgsQexjwK4UEiYd44j1873dQ&s=kGWOrCMFJa28uSrmlNndcdDF1StX6j-cTO9BdvNg8lM&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/access-to-knowledge/linguistic-diversity-and-multilingualism-on-internet/internationalized-domain-names[unesco.org]</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>RAHMOUNI: </b>many examples are avaible </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.unesco.org_new_en_communication-2Dand-2Dinformation_access-2Dto-2Dknowledge_linguistic-2Ddiversity-2Dand-2Dmultilingualism-2Don-2Dinternet&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=qAw3d8Spr7VGLw20GFjrgsQexjwK4UEiYd44j1873dQ&s=YQycDyUWl4yTZDs1rpTNhss-HkdlhWanBQ6pTi7cVfg&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/access-to-knowledge/linguistic-diversity-and-multilingualism-on-internet[unesco.org]</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b>this doc has a few more additions </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1XpXaGckf9IIYGgPKdMhBgKe8gzwruuCHgvXiz-2DDwOOM_edit&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=qAw3d8Spr7VGLw20GFjrgsQexjwK4UEiYd44j1873dQ&s=VSHNLx5Q_C0HHNfDuXSS5teOeG8VOiV042dVE6VHkco&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpXaGckf9IIYGgPKdMhBgKe8gzwruuCHgvXiz-DwOOM/edit[docs.google.com]</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">#<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b>regarding multilingualism maybe some data on the use of translation in meetings or use of interpreters?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Fiona: Regions vs geographical diversity. We need to define what we mean by region.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b>perhaps consider icann regions as geographic and self-declared as regions</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> Sebastien: we should try to limit the number of questions we raise<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: </b> We should stick to questions that can be answered factually. Therefore, Question 3 should be deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland): </b>I feel we should ask on both aspects (what they do themselves and what they expect from ICANN at large). Perhaps it should be more balanced. What do you understand under diversity and what do you do for it? And what do you expect in terms of diversity from ICANN at large?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b>rephrasing also the question on education for diversity, could ask how many materials, seminars or educational initiatives for diversity has so/ac produced<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Rachel Pollack: </b>perhaps 5-8 could be seen as fact-finding part about the SO/AC, and then separate out a couple of questions more of a survey of views and ideas on diversity as a whole<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Seun Ojedeji: </b>Not sure question 8 is necessary as it would not be a fact since it isn't formal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#432296">q8 and others the so/ac has to come forward with info can all be merged into 1 question - what is being done about diversity in so/ac?</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Renata Aquino Ribeiro: </b></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#432296">also rephrasing question 3 - what percentage of participation does so/ac has of developing and least developed countries</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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