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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 29 December 2016 10:24 AM,
Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
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am having trouble making sense of your message below. When
you use verbal constructs like “</span>I havent seen not
only no attempt to explore ways to stop such influence by
you,” <span
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untie the knots in your words (or thinking?) and rephrase
the question more clearly.
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Milton<br>
I have no problem in making it clearer to you, as long as you would
then actually respond to the issue.<br>
<br>
When you say, "Supporters of the MS model and opponents of
intergovernmentalism have legitimate reasons to investigate the
impact of US jurisdiction, because the US is a global power with
very specific foreign policy and military interests. US jurisdiction
thus may have the potential to create opportunities for one
government - the US - to have an inappropriate level of influence
over ICANN's transnational, nonstate actor based governance
processes."<br>
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I just wanted to know what do you propose to do about this clearly
identified jurisdiction problem? <br>
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Further, if going down an international treaty route is problematic
for you, do you think jurisdictional immunity under the
International Organisations Immunities Act is a good way to address
this jurisdictional problem?<br>
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parminder<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.4pt">To quote you,
Milton, "Supporters of the MS model and opponents of
intergovernmentalism have legitimate reasons to investigate
the impact of US jurisdiction, because the US is a global
power with very specific foreign policy and military
interests. US jurisdiction thus may have the potential to
create opportunities for one government - the US - to have
an inappropriate level of influence over ICANN's
transnational, nonstate actor based governance processes."<br>
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I havent seen not only no attempt to explore ways to stop
such influence by you, and many others here, but, much more
problematically, strong resistance to anyone trying to do
so. Now that you state the matter in this way, it does
arouse curiosity about what kind of directions of
exploration you yourself possibly see in this regard. <br>
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As for your next sentence<br>
"One can consider those issues without implying that ICANN's
corporate HQ needs to move."<br>
<br>
Yes, this is entirely true. Have been saying this for a long
time but somehow hasnt had traction.
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