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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 30 December 2016 04:29 AM,
John Laprise wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">"Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law
provides suitable accountability would do."</p>
<p dir="ltr">This is the crux of the argument regarding
jurisdiction. Until advocates of ICANN relocation can identify a
superior jurisdiction acceptable to all,</p>
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For the present let me keep the possibility of international law's
jurisdiction apart, can you tell me how keeping ICANN as US non
profit but with jurisdictional immunities under US's International
Orgs Immunities Act is not a superior jurisdictional status that the
current one? <br>
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Acceptable to all, that is the interesting part; we wont have had
abolishing of slavery in the US if it awaited acceptance by all. A
small group benefiting form the status quo cannot hold the global
public to ransom. If it does insists in doing so, citing
self-serving procedural stuff, that the change will be forced to
come from other, perhaps less palatable, routes.... parminder <br>
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<p dir="ltr"> the question is moot and should be tabled with
Kavous's and Parminder's objections noted.</p>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016, 4:50 PM Kavouss Arasteh
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<div class="gmail_msg">Dear Professor,</div>
<div class="gmail_msg">You put too much emphasis on private
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<div class="gmail_msg">Please read Bylaws Core value and the
R9ole of Governments </div>
<div class="gmail_msg">Regards</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">Kavouss </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">2016-12-29 23:01
GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"
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class="gmail_msg">Milton, since you seem to so
very clear about everything, and on a crusade to
correct everyone's confusions</span><span
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"
class="gmail_msg">MM: Oh dear, I’ve been called
a “crusader.” (It almost made me fall off my
horse.)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Times New
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class="gmail_msg">can you give us an example of
such "jurisdiction that does not involve
national borders at all", without it implying an
agreement reached among states. Are you
promoting US jurisdiction as such jurisdiction
without borders?</span><span
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"
class="gmail_msg">MM: ICANN was based on a
strategy of globalization through private law.
In order to avoid jurisdictional fragmentation
of the domain name system, it created a global
governance agency based on private contracts. Of
course as a private corp ICANN has to be
incorporated somewhere, in this case for
historical reasons it was the US. It then issues
private contracts that apply anywhere, like
other multinationals. It does not have to be
incorporated in the US to follow this strategy.
Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law
provides suitable accountability would do. So
the short answer to your typically manipulative
question is no, I am not promoting “US
jurisdiction as such,” I am calling attention to
the rationale behind the original decision to
make ICANN a private nonprofit. </span></p>
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