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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 30 December 2016 04:29 AM,
      John Laprise wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">"Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law
        provides suitable accountability would do."</p>
      <p dir="ltr">This is the crux of the argument regarding
        jurisdiction. Until advocates of ICANN relocation can identify a
        superior jurisdiction acceptable to all,</p>
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    For the present let me keep the possibility of international law's
    jurisdiction apart, can you tell me how keeping ICANN as US non
    profit but with jurisdictional immunities under US's International
    Orgs Immunities Act is not a superior jurisdictional status that the
    current one? <br>
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    Acceptable to all, that is the interesting part; we wont have had
    abolishing of slavery in the US if it awaited acceptance by all. A
    small group benefiting form the status quo cannot hold the global
    public to ransom. If it does insists in doing so, citing
    self-serving procedural stuff, that the change will be forced to
    come from other, perhaps less palatable, routes.... parminder <br>
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      <p dir="ltr"> the question is moot and should be tabled with
        Kavous's and Parminder's objections noted.</p>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016, 4:50 PM Kavouss Arasteh
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            <div class="gmail_msg">Dear Professor,</div>
            <div class="gmail_msg">You put too much emphasis on private
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            <div class="gmail_msg">Please read Bylaws Core value and the
              R9ole of Governments </div>
            <div class="gmail_msg">Regards</div>
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            <div class="gmail_msg">Kavouss </div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">2016-12-29 23:01
              GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"
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                        class="gmail_msg">Milton, since you seem to so
                        very clear about everything, and on a crusade to
                        correct everyone's confusions</span><span
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                        class="gmail_msg">MM: Oh dear, I’ve been called
                        a “crusader.” (It almost made me fall off my
                        horse.)</span></p>
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                        class="gmail_msg">can you give us an example of
                        such "jurisdiction that does not involve
                        national borders at all", without it implying an
                        agreement reached among states. Are you
                        promoting US jurisdiction as such jurisdiction
                        without borders?</span><span
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                        class="gmail_msg">MM: ICANN was based on a
                        strategy of globalization through private law.
                        In order to avoid jurisdictional fragmentation
                        of the domain name system, it created a global
                        governance agency based on private contracts. Of
                        course as a private corp ICANN has to be
                        incorporated somewhere, in this case for
                        historical reasons it was the US. It then issues
                        private contracts that apply anywhere, like
                        other multinationals. It does not have to be
                        incorporated in the US to follow this strategy.
                        Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law
                        provides suitable accountability would do. So
                        the short answer to your typically manipulative
                        question is no, I am not promoting “US
                        jurisdiction as such,” I am calling attention to
                        the rationale behind the original decision to
                        make ICANN a private nonprofit. </span></p>
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