<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74453">What would be the criteria for the acceptability of such a "superior jurisdiction"?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74451"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74407" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74406"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74405"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74404"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74447" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John Laprise <jlaprise@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>; "Mueller, Milton L" <milton@gatech.edu> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org" <ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org>; "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 30, 2016 3:59 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The crusade for clarity continues<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74409"><br><div id="yiv3981630833"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74412"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74506">"Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law provides suitable accountability would do."</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74411">This is the crux of the argument regarding jurisdiction. Until advocates of ICANN relocation can identify a superior jurisdiction acceptable to all, the question is moot and should be tabled with Kavous's and Parminder's objections noted.</div>
<br clear="none"><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74416"><div class="yiv3981630833yqt5768577291" id="yiv3981630833yqtfd98070"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74415">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016, 4:50 PM Kavouss Arasteh <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv3981630833gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74420"><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74419"><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74418">Dear Professor,</div><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74527">You put too much emphasis on private .</div><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74529">Please read Bylaws Core value and the R9ole of Governments </div><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg">Regards</div></div><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg">Kavouss </div></div><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_extra yiv3981630833gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" clear="none"><div class="yiv3981630833gmail_quote yiv3981630833gmail_msg">2016-12-29 23:01 GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" ymailto="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span>:<br class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3981630833gmail_quote yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="">Milton, since you seem to so very clear about everything, and on a crusade to correct everyone's confusions</span><span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg"></u><u class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg"></u></span></div>
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<span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">MM: Oh dear, I’ve been called a “crusader.” (It almost made me fall off my horse.)<u class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg"></u><u class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg"></u></span></div>
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<span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="">can you give us an example of such "jurisdiction that does not involve national borders at all", without it implying an agreement reached among states. Are you promoting US jurisdiction as such
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<span class="yiv3981630833gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">MM: ICANN was based on a strategy of globalization through private law. In order to avoid jurisdictional fragmentation of the domain name system, it created a global governance agency based on private contracts. Of course as a private
corp ICANN has to be incorporated somewhere, in this case for historical reasons it was the US. It then issues private contracts that apply anywhere, like other multinationals. It does not have to be incorporated in the US to follow this strategy. Any stable
jurisdiction where the corporate law provides suitable accountability would do. So the short answer to your typically manipulative question is no, I am not promoting “US jurisdiction as such,” I am calling attention to the rationale behind the original decision
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