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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Criteria might include strength (vis a vis rule of law), fairness, and level of corruption. These are complex criteria which can be (and are by various entities) broken down into component attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>John Laprise, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Consulting Scholar<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jplaprise/"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#0563C1'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/jplaprise/</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Zakir Syed [mailto:zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Laprise <jlaprise@gmail.com>; Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu><br><b>Cc:</b> ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The crusade for clarity continues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74453"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>What would be the criteria for the acceptability of such a "superior jurisdiction"?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74451"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74407"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74406"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74405"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74404"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> John Laprise <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>; "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> "<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>>; "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 30, 2016 3:59 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The crusade for clarity continues</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74409"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv3981630833><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74412"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74506"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>"Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law provides suitable accountability would do."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74411"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>This is the crux of the argument regarding jurisdiction. Until advocates of ICANN relocation can identify a superior jurisdiction acceptable to all, the question is moot and should be tabled with Kavous's and Parminder's objections noted.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74416"><div id=yiv3981630833yqtfd98070><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74415"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>On Thu, Dec 29, 2016, 4:50 PM Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74420"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74419"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74418"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear Professor,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74527"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>You put too much emphasis on private .<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483631528515_74529"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Please read Bylaws Core value and the R9ole of Governments <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Kavouss <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>2016-12-29 23:01 GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span>:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Milton, since you seem to so very clear about everything, and on a crusade to correct everyone's confusions</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>MM: Oh dear, I’ve been called a “crusader.” (It almost made me fall off my horse.)</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>can you give us an example of such "jurisdiction that does not involve national borders at all", without it implying an agreement reached among states. Are you promoting US jurisdiction as such jurisdiction without borders?</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>MM: ICANN was based on a strategy of globalization through private law. In order to avoid jurisdictional fragmentation of the domain name system, it created a global governance agency based on private contracts. Of course as a private corp ICANN has to be incorporated somewhere, in this case for historical reasons it was the US. It then issues private contracts that apply anywhere, like other multinationals. It does not have to be incorporated in the US to follow this strategy. Any stable jurisdiction where the corporate law provides suitable accountability would do. So the short answer to your typically manipulative question is no, I am not promoting “US jurisdiction as such,” I am calling attention to the rationale behind the original decision to make ICANN a private nonprofit. </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv3981630833gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yqtfd49776><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>