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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Please bear in mind that enough time is needed after the Copenhagen meeting to consider discussions. The deadline should not be set on an arbitrary
basis, but instead on a logical basis, with an aim to maximize inputs and enrich discussions. Hence, I can only echo Kavouss and Jorge.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">30 days after Copenhagen would be the best choice, but if it is felt that it is too long, at least 15/20 days should be allowed as a minimum. Otherwise,
we would run the risk of preventing several parties from participating and contributing, and the outcome could as a consequence be deemed skewed or biased.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>En nombre de </b>Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 25 de enero de 2017 14:33<br>
<b>Para:</b> kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com; mssi-secretariat@icann.org; Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr; leonfelipe@sanchez.mx; rickert@anwaelte.de; Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch<br>
<b>CC:</b> ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [Ws2-jurisdiction] Notes, recordings and transcript for WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting # 18 | 24 January<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Let me reiterate the points I made last week on the CCWG list which are in line with the concerns expressed by Kavouss:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Cancio Jorge BAKOM
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 19. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Januar 2017 09:03<br>
<b>An:</b> 'Mathieu Weill' <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>; 'Accountability Cross Community' <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> AW: Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Mathieu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you for this opportunity to comment the proposed timelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Given the fact that the public comment periods have not started (and for instance there is still discussion ongoing
on “how” to perform them), and that the Copenhagen meeting would be very close to the end of the envisaged comment periods, I agree that we should let the deadlines end after Copenhagen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With this in mind, I would favor a deadline that allows for sufficient time for travel back to each homes and to digest
the F2F discussions in Copenhagen, before submitting the inputs to the different comment periods. Two weeks after Copenhagen could be the right amount of time for doing so. If we are eager to receive consensus inputs from SO/ACs this may even take a bit longer,
not only for the GAC but also for other SO/AC – I see no reason for setting artificially tight deadlines in this regard, as the period April-June is probably adequate to assess and digest the inputs to be received.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I hope that the group may show flexibility in this sensitive matter and we may set a deadline at the beginning of April,
which would allow all interested parties to make their inputs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 23:05<br>
<b>An:</b> MSSI Secretariat <<a href="mailto:mssi-secretariat@icann.org">mssi-secretariat@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>; Schneider Thomas
BAKOM <<a href="mailto:Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch">Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>; CCWG Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] [CCWG-ACCT] Notes, recordings and transcript for WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting # 18 | 24 January<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Dear All,</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Once again my absence was misused and deciding 24 of March as deadline for response to jurisdiction questionnaire</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">The last but one call, there were two dates 03 April or 13 April. The latter is about one month after the end of ICANN 58 and the former 10 days before that.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">I do not understand why my argument that GAC requires enough time after debating the case in its face to face meeting in Copenhagen</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Some people made every efforts to deprive / Exclude Governments from reply by shortening time to one third</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">This is not acceptable and not agreed.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">This 30 days after Copenhagen meeting is fundamental
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">.I do not understand
</span><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">where the figure 42 days comes from</span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">. Because one of the co-chairs or all of them decided 42
days we have to accept it.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#FF9900">This is totally objected.</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">
</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">We need one month after the end of ICANN 58 .</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Pls correct that
</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">i will talk to Thomas Schneider tomorrow on phone and ask him to react.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">secondly, even though i am one of the volunteer FOR LIGITATION STUDY. But I am one hand typing and takes several times more than a 10 finger typing person.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Pls exclude me for preparation as I can not do it.</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">This small message that I am send it to you was done by my Son who came to dine with us
</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regards</span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Kavouss
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">2017-01-24 20:33 GMT+01:00 MSSI Secretariat <<a href="mailto:mssi-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">mssi-secretariat@icann.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2
<b>Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #18</b> – 24 January 2017 will be available here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/4aXDAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/4aXDAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> A copy of the notes and action items</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-US">may be found below. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">With kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Brenda Brewer <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Greg Shatan to redraft Summary Form per comments today and distribute to list.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Volunteers to analyze cases using forms should pick their cases (sign up sheet) and complete their analysis per the Form for 14 February.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">David McAuley will draft a question this for external counsel regarding the possibility of ICANN being sued in other jurisdiction in the digital age. This will be
distributed on the list for comments.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Greg Shatan will prepare questions from the “Influence of ICANN’s Existing Jurisdiction” document for the sub-group’s next meeting and distribute on the list.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Notes (including relevant portions of chat):</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">9 Participants at start of call</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">1. Welcome</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Apologies from Kavouss Arasteh, Jorge Cancio. Becky Burr audio only. Updates to SOIs? (none).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">2. Questionnaire</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">a. Publishing and Announcing the Questionnaire</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Has been discussing on list. Suggest announce of ICANN Public comments page and then point to a URL. It can then be published or referenced by any of us.
No objections. Will proceed as such if ICANN has no objections.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">b. Time Period for Responses to the Questionnaire</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: we have a number of options to consider.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Mathieu Weill: If we publish with translation between 8 to 10 February the standard 42 day period would end after ICANN 58.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley: Support MW. We should be preparing to analyze the questionnaire responses as responses come in - may be efficient to have a team for this.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">c. Translation</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Translation in the standard UN languages is built into the plan and will publish all at the same time. Any comments</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley: Are we going beyond the UN 6?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: No decision yet regarding Farsi.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley: FB suggestion is noble but would urge caution in going beyond the UN 6. Would recommend we stick with the standard UN 6.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: DM points well taken. would like to point out that are issues with non-professional translation. ALAC uses these services and often goes beyond the
UN6 into Portuguese often. Reverse translation issue will still be there.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Matthew shears: it is always wise to use accepted languages</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Mathieu Weill 2: accepted practice in general I would add</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): Good point CLO about the large number of Asian Pacific languages - I for one speak a little Tagalog and my wife, from Manila, speaks it fluently
- a beautiful language.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Avri Doria: Unless there is a specific reason to go beyond the UN 6 do not understand why we would expand - and any translation should be professional. If someone wants
to translate informally to distribute it to their contacts this is fine but responses have to be in the UN 6.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: temp check Limit to UN6 - (6+ and none against). Going beyond UN6 and have a specific suggestion? ( none, 1 gainst). Will do the standard UN languages.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: oops I got here late. But suggesting Farsi was not because it was an Asian language. Iranians are affected by ICANN jusridcition more than those that
speak Telagu or other things</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: another thing added to my tasks</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Vidushi Marda: Farzi - I don't think that's fair to say, it has atleast 85 million native speakers.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: Vidushi we have cases should be discussed</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: it's not about how many speak it</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Vidushi Marda: agreed - but this is forward looking and there are many people interested in the work of this group - who are :) </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: your argument resulted in an a decision that just adds to my workload. and not many Iranians are going to respond to these in english</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Vidushi Marda: agreed, I'm not saying it isn't important at all</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: and I don't know how accurate informal trnaslation is going to be,. I am not going to give up on this and will translate but this was not a decision to
make by arguing just that oh there are so many other languages</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: I have given specific examples how Iranians are affected</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: did anyone do that who speaks some other language? anyhow. doesnt matter spendiing life on ICANN might be good for me</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">3. Small Group Review of ICANN’s Past and Current Litigation</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">a. Litigations: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/litigation-en" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/litigation-en</span></a></span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Review of the 35 or so cases. Have prepare a suggestion for a draft summary form and circulated for comments.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">b. Draft Summary Form: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1efkQOvSwW-2m1T_u6anFMVUeiHoO6P4PR3-0mWlU_Cs/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1efkQOvSwW-2m1T_u6anFMVUeiHoO6P4PR3-0mWlU_Cs/edit?usp=sharing</span></a></span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Review of Summary report draft form.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): maybe make it a binary question - was jurisdiction contested in any manner</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Matthew shears: perhaps the justification for considering it relevant to our work should be the last line of the summary</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Mathieu Weill 2: Our "influence" doc has 3 categories we could map to cases : Influence on operation of ICANN policies, of ICANN acct mechanisms, on Disputes involving
ICANN - We could tag according to this.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: are we going to discuss arbitration cases to ( if there are any?)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Stick with the list which includes the 1 arbitration case. Action Item: GS to edit the draft summary form per discussions.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): Greg - do we have a time scale for this effort?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: 35 cases and 9 volounteers = about 4 cases per person - 3 weeks should be enough (Action Item for Analysis team members: reports would be due 14 February).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): ok</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">c. Sign-Up Sheet:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oo9oDJuuxFz1UUNaBfHeor7HPhJ5XcRHFTq3hjRltOM/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oo9oDJuuxFz1UUNaBfHeor7HPhJ5XcRHFTq3hjRltOM/edit?usp=sharing</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: -</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">4. “Influence of ICANN’s Existing Jurisdiction” document, Section C<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_uxN8A5J3iaofnGlr5gYoFVKudgg_DuwDgIuyICPzbk/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_uxN8A5J3iaofnGlr5gYoFVKudgg_DuwDgIuyICPzbk/edit?usp=sharing</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley: Is this just about the US or are we looking at what would happen elsewhere?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Good questions, will have to refine our working method as to how input in.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): I think that is a good comment on my comment Greg – this asks us to wonder about the future when we have past performance to judge by – why not
go by that?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Mathieu Weill: Use Plaintiff language as suggested by GS. will also help us classify the cases.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): Good point Mathieu. You state is that ICANN can be sued in other jurisdictions. It may be worth asking our external legal counsel about that in
the digital age.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: DM good question. Action Item: DM will propose on the list.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): ok, will do</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): a bit later in the week</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: Any other comments? (none). Continue discussion of document. Keeping parties accountable is good - so allowing people to sue allows for this.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): I think Greg makes a fair point about capacity to be sued - a basic thing that is easy to perhaps overlook at times.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: This is an important part of our work and hope that we can have better discussions on this.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley: I have not been back to this document recently. this is important and we need to get back to it. suggest we note it in the agenda.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan: I would take it further and extract the questions and distribute as a specific assignment to help people focus.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): good idea - and ask us to generate questions about it too</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): this may take several weeks</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">5. AOB (none)</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">6. Adjourn</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Decisions:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Questionnaire will be announced on ICANN Public Comment page which will have a web link to it.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Questionnaire will only be translated in the official UN languages by ICANN Language services.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Questionnaire will be published in all languages simultaneously.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Time period for responding to questionnaire should be standard 42 days (it is expected that the translations will be available between the 8<sup>th</sup> and 10<sup>th</sup> of
February which would put the closing 24 March) extensions for those requesting this could be possible.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Review of ICANN’s Past and Current Litigation will only focus on the 35 cases listed on the web site and not include IRP etc.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan to redraft Summary Form per comments today and distribute to list.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Volunteers to analyze cases using forms should pick their cases (sign up sheet) and complete their analysis per the Form for 14 February.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">David McAuley will draft a question this for external counsel regarding the possibility of ICANN being sued in other jurisdiction in the digital age. This will
be distributed on the list for comments.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">Greg Shatan will prepare questions from the “Influence of ICANN’s Existing Jurisdiction” document for the sub-group’s next meeting and distribute on the list.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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