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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Is this report now
open for comments? Tremendous amount of work,
congratulations, but I have quite a few comments.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-09-19 18:52, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
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I agree with Farzaneh. These are important reforms we are
*supposed* to be doing here. Not merely window dressing to meet a
deadline.
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<div class="">On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:53 AM, farzaneh badii
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I had a cursory
review and I don't see what I have recommended is
implemented or been considered. I could not properly
attend all the the Ombuds group meetings but I don't
think that means my comments should not be
considered. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have to raise
my concerns which I have reiterated over and over in
that group and seems like not many people agree with
me, so I might have to file a dissent but I'd like to
raise my concerns here as well:</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. I don't
think we can solve the problem of independence by
giving the ombudspersons a 5 year contract. I have
provided my reasons before. If by 5 years fixed
contract you mean the Ombuds office as an entity
should be given a fixed term contract that is fine.
But ombudspersons getting fixed five-year contract
won't solve the problem. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. Ombuds has
to be an office and not a person. At the moment it's a
person. I think to maintain the independence of the
office, we need to have preferably an external
organization that provides ombuds services and its
revenue is not only dependent on ICANN. That way we
can ensure independence. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. Under no
circumstances, the ombudspersons should socialize and
befriend community members ( this is a very obvious
independence element, have you ever encountered the
decision maker of your case at a social event talking
and smiling at the party you filed a complaint
against? It is written in first year legal text books
that independence is very much affected by social
encounters and interactions)</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think
the current recommendations are sufficient enough to
expand the ombuds office mandate. But I do need
written reasons for not considering the points I have
made. It is simply not enough that the WS2 group on
Ombuds did not agree with my comments.</div>
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know what the process would be to file a dissent or if
we can discuss it during the plenary.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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AM, Sebicann Bachollet <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
href="mailto:sebicann@bachollet.fr"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">sebicann@bachollet.fr</a>></span>
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class="" lang="EN-US">19th
September 2017,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">Dear
Co-Chairs,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">The
WS2 Sub-Group on ICANN Ombuds Office (IOO) is
very pleased to present
to the plenary of the CCWG on ICANN
Accountability WS2 our Report
titled ‘CCWG-Accountability-<wbr class="">WS2-Ombudsman-<wbr
class="">DrafRecommendationsV2.2’
for first reading, discussion, review,
comments and consideration. It was finalized,
on Monday 18<sup class="">th</sup> of
September 2017 at the 30<sup class="">th</sup>
meeting of
the IOO Sub-Group.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">As IOO Sub
Group Rapporteur I will be pleased to
answer any questions and discuss any
comments from our CCWG.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">I would like
to take this opportunity to thanks the
participants of our IOO Sub-group and
Bernard for his support to finalize the
attached documents.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">All the best</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">IOO Sub
Group Rapporteur,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
class="" lang="EN-US">Sebastien
Bachollet</span></p>
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class="" lang="EN-US">External evaluator’s
final report</span></li>
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