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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Is this report now
          open for comments?  Tremendous amount of work,
          congratulations, but I have quite a few comments.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-09-19 18:52, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
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      I agree with Farzaneh.  These are important reforms we are
      *supposed* to be doing here.  Not merely window dressing to meet a
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I had a cursory
                  review and I don't see what I have recommended is
                  implemented or been considered. I could not properly
                  attend all the the Ombuds group meetings but I don't
                  think that means my comments should not be
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have to raise
                  my concerns which I have reiterated over and over in
                  that group and seems like not many people agree with
                  me, so I might have to file a dissent but I'd like to
                  raise my concerns here as well:</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. I don't
                  think we can solve the problem of independence by
                  giving the ombudspersons a 5 year contract. I have
                  provided my reasons before. If by 5 years fixed
                  contract you mean the Ombuds office as an entity
                  should be given a fixed term contract that is fine.
                  But ombudspersons getting fixed five-year contract
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. Ombuds has
                  to be an office and not a person. At the moment it's a
                  person. I think to maintain the independence of the
                  office, we need to have preferably an external
                  organization that provides ombuds services and its
                  revenue is not only dependent on ICANN. That way we
                  can ensure independence. </div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. Under no
                  circumstances, the ombudspersons should socialize and
                  befriend community members ( this is a very obvious
                  independence element, have you ever encountered the
                  decision maker of your case at a social event talking
                  and smiling at the party you filed a complaint
                  against? It is written in first year legal text books
                  that independence is very much affected by social
                  encounters and interactions)</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think
                  the current recommendations are sufficient enough to
                  expand the ombuds office mandate. But I do need
                  written reasons for not considering the points I have
                  made. It is simply not enough that the WS2 group on
                  Ombuds did not agree with my comments.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please let me
                  know what the process would be to file a dissent or if
                  we can discuss it during the plenary.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:16
                  AM, Sebicann Bachollet <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a
                      href="mailto:sebicann@bachollet.fr"
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                          September 2017,</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">Dear
                          Co-Chairs,</span></p>
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">The
                          WS2 Sub-Group on ICANN Ombuds Office (IOO) is
                          very pleased to present
                          to the plenary of the CCWG on ICANN
                          Accountability WS2 our Report
                          titled ‘CCWG-Accountability-<wbr class="">WS2-Ombudsman-<wbr
                            class="">DrafRecommendationsV2.2’
                          for first reading, discussion, review,
                          comments and consideration. It was finalized,
                          on Monday 18<sup class="">th</sup> of
                          September 2017 at the 30<sup class="">th</sup>
                          meeting of
                          the IOO Sub-Group.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial"
                          class="" lang="EN-US">As IOO Sub
                          Group Rapporteur I will be pleased to
                          answer any questions and discuss any
                          comments from our CCWG.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">I would like
                          to take this opportunity to thanks the
                          participants of our IOO Sub-group and
                          Bernard for his support to finalize the
                          attached documents.</span></p>
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">All the best</span></p>
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">IOO Sub
                          Group Rapporteur,</span></p>
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">Sebastien
                          Bachollet</span></p>
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                            final report</span></li>
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