<div><div dir="auto">Parminder.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For years this groups has rotated calls between 05, 13 and 19 UTC. The pain is shared. I’m sure you can manage a late night.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jordan</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 5:38 AM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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<div class="m_3911644124753698300moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:47 PM,
Bernard Turcotte wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Given we do
have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to
raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the
agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final
report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft
recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights
and Jurisdiction (new agenda below).</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This would
allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while
allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Given we do
have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at
the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone
that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to
complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to
21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for
an extra 15 minutes if required.</div>
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2100 UTC is 0230 past midnight in India.... This timing means that
quite more than half the world's population is expected to be
normally asleep ... 1300 UTC would mean, in my estimate, 90 percent
of it awake... But we cannot have USians -- not even just the west
side ones - do things out of office hours, and the rest must
comply, and if needed stay awake much past-midnight...... Is it not
unjust..... <br>
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You want to do the reading of jurisdiction related recs that are
basically about the non US world asking for parity with the US, and
you do it at at time when by far most of them are expected to be
asleep! great work!<br>
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And the proposal is to extend the meeting, not perhaps starting it
earlier --- as they say, in somewhat different context, one needs to
be in the hot seat to feel the heat, I can understand that from the
US the reality of the rest of world does not even make a good
palpable picture.. <br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thank you.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Bernard
Turcotte</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN Staff
Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Agenda for the
CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to
21:15 UTC<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></b></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Introduction,
update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Review
of
Agenda<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Administration<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.55in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">ICANN
60.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.85in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Face
to Face
plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time
(04:30 – 13:00 UTC)<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.85in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hight
interest
presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local
time (06:30 – 08:00
UTC). <span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.2.1.<span>
</span></span><b><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Note
we need to have 1 rapporteur per
sub-group present at this session to answer questions
from the community</span></b><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.2.2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rapporteurs
please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19
October 23:59 UTC.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.1.2.3.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">In
cases where
there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which
co-rapporteur will be
delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of
presence. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.55in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">ICANN
61<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.85in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Reminder
we
will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.85in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Reminder
of
funding rules.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.85in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.3.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Confirmation
of travel funding dates:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.3.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Begin
accepting
applications Thursday 12 October<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.3.2.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Close
applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.2in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.2.3.3.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Submit
final
list to ICANN Monday 27 November<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">4.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Legal
Committee
Update<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.55in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">4.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman
recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the
proposed Ombuds Advisory
Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval
of Co-chairs).<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">5.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Second
reading
of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">6.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">First
reading
of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">7.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Second
reading
of the final recommendations of the Human Rights
sub-group.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">8.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">First
Reading
of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">9.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">AOB<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">10.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Next
Plenaries<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0.55in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">10.1.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Friday
27
October face to face – all day<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_3911644124753698300gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">11.<span>
</span></span><span style="line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Adjournment<span></span></span></p>
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