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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 18 October 2017 10:24 PM,
Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think both Milton's
questions and Farzeneh's email get to a fundamental ambiguity
in both submissions:</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It is unclear whether
they are expressing a minority viewpoint about each of the
recommendations that are in the Subgroup Report (i.e., they do
not join the consensus that each recommendation needed in the
Subgroup in order to be reported up to the Plenary). </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In other words, do they
dissent from each recommendation set out in the Report?</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Based on my reading of
the submissions, it might be the case that Parminder would
answer yes because in his view the stated recommendations do
not go far enough. That critique of the recommendations seems
clear enough. Some with that same view would join the
consensus (since consensus rarely aligns perfectly with any
single participant's view), while others will choose not to
support the recommendation. It is not entirely clear which
"bucket" Parminder falls into. While I assume it is the
latter, that needs to be confirmed rather than merely assumed.</div>
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Yes, the Chair has the right to seek this clarification and in
compliance I think my response to Milton makes my position clear. I
disagree with these recs for the reasons stated there.<br>
<br>
I like OFAC related recs but they should be a part of a customised
immunity rec . An OFAC general licence is one such partial immunity,
but the problem in not seeking a larger immunity is that the same
actors that could be hurt by an OFAC can have their DNS related
interests compromised by a US court, or a US executive order, or a
regulator, all of which problems should be addressed together
through a customised immunity under IOI Act. That Trump admin wont
grant it is no argument to me.<br>
<br>
As for choice of law recs, they are extremely problematic in
allowing ICANN the option to actually make US and state of
California law as the compulsory law for for all ICANN contract.
That is a big regression even from the status quo, away from the
direction making ICANN a truly international organisation. <br>
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parminder
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am unable to glean a
position on the recommendations from the submission of
Brazil. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">At the least, a
minority viewpoint needs to be clear on this level, setting
aside whatever other issues might be raised.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:22 PM,
farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This was the
chance to get our voice heard at ICANN about US
sanctions. After 19 years of doing nothing about it, now
we have solid recommendations to overcome OFAC issues.
At whose expense are these recommendations being opposed
to because some want to fight imperialism and windmills.
I wish our work would not be undermined, we did real
work in jurisdiction group.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Of course, there
are other issues that need to be discussed, for example,
the ccTLD issue is something we reported on. It didn't
gain traction. But I believe it does not mean it will
never be discussed. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Undermining the
work of this group will block a very effective way to
facilitate access to domain name system for people in
sanctioned countries. I hope you consider this when you
oppose the recommendations of the subgroup. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:03
PM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear All, </div>
<div>This type of intergation is not legitimate
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<div>Regards</div>
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color="#888888">
<div>Kavouss </div>
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<div class="m_-5612520697617532562h5">On
Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mueller,
Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Parminder
(and Thiago)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I
respond to this with a very
simple set of questions. All of
which admit of a simple Yes or
No answer:</span></p>
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style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><span>1.<span
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</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Do
you or do you not think that
ICANN should seek a general OFAC
license for DNS services?
</span></p>
<p
class="m_-5612520697617532562m_6113201911431764551m_5420771632834150265MsoListParagraph"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><span>2.<span
style="font:7pt/normal
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</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Do
you or do you not want non-US
registrars to be clearly told by
ICANN that the RAA does not by
itself commit them to abiding by
OFAC sanctions?</span></p>
<p
class="m_-5612520697617532562m_6113201911431764551m_5420771632834150265MsoListParagraph"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><span>3.<span
style="font:7pt/normal
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Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Do
you or do you not want to
require ICANN to seek an OFAC
license for any (non-SDP)
registrar who needs it?</span></p>
<p
class="m_-5612520697617532562m_6113201911431764551m_5420771632834150265MsoListParagraph"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><span>4.<span
style="font:7pt/normal
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</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Do
you or do you not want there to
be a choice of law addition to
the contracted parties’
contracts?</span></p>
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style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">If
you answer No to all these
question you are indeed
disagreeing with the subgroup
recommendations, and you are de
facto in favor of upholding the
status quo, because the status
quo is the only actual
alternative to the consensus
recommendations.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Looking
forward to your answers.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">
parminder [mailto:<a
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">parminder@itforchange.<wbr>net</a>]
<br>
<span>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
October 17, 2017 9:33 AM<br>
</span><b>To:</b> Mueller,
Milton L <<a
href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>>;
Thiago Braz Jardim
Oliveira <<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.b<wbr>r</a>>;
<a
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">accountability-cross-community<wbr>@icann.org</a></span></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">acct-staff@icann.org</a>;
<a
href="mailto:gac@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gac@icann.org</a>;
GAC <<a
href="mailto:gac@gac.icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gac@gac.icann.org</a>>;
ws2-jurisdiction <<a
href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Ws2-jurisdiction]
Jurisdiction Subgroup.
Draft Report. Statement of
Brazil. Annex. To be
annexed to the draft
report. For consideration
by the CCWG.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
Monday 16 October 2017
11:18 PM, Mueller, Milton
L wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">By
the way, after
additional review of
these “dissenting”
materials I have come up
with an interesting
finding: none of them
actually disagree with
the recommendations we
did come up with, and
neither of them disputes
that there is consensus
for the actual
recommendations. They
simply say that the
recommendations are not
enough for them.
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This is a wrong reading of
what is a consensus.
Consensus relates to a whole
set of recs, and the whole
report, not parts of it. One
may not otherwise disagree,
for instance, with a
particular motherhood and
apple pie statement (they
are meant not be disagreed
with), but disagree with it
constituting the whole of
recs or the report of a
group. That would still be
an absence of consensus for
that statement to be the rec
of that group. (Those who
are involved with the
Working Group on Enhanced
Cooperation will know how
its final stages to develop
a report suffers from a
similar dilemma.)<br>
<br>
A report is as significant
in terms of what it does not
say as what it says...... If
there is no consensus on
changing the status quo,
there isnt one on keeping it
either. And the dissonance
is so very significant that
some members would want to
dissociate from some weak
formulations that have been
compiled as agreed outcomes
of the group, which simply
do not address key issues of
the mandate given to the
group.
<br>
<br>
Let me try to explain it
another way. Lets say that
there has been a great
humanitarian crisis owing to
human/ political reasons and
a committee is formed to
report on its facts and the
required action by the world
community. If some members
try to develop a report that
greatly under-reports the
nature and extent of the
calamity (as is done in this
jurisdiction sub group's
report regarding facts of
the many very significant
problems about continued US
jurisdiction over a key
global governance function)
and comes up with some very
weak mitigating measures,
like saying that for the
next many weeks free water
supplies should to
maintained for the whole
area, others members may
dissent with that report,
without necessarily being
against the "water supply"
part.... They are apt to
disassociate from and
condemn the whole report,
doing which would certainly
be a meaningful exercise, in
putting emphasis on what the
committee was abdicating
from rather than what it was
recommending. Similar is the
situation with our dissent
notes with respect to the
jurisdiction sub-group's
report..<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">So
what the dissent is
about, really, is that
they could not achieve
consensus on their own
position regarding a
much broader take on
jurisdiction and
immunity. And yet we all
know that their position
could never achieve
consensus. So their
disputing the consensus
basis of this report
amounts to a block what
most of us could agree
on
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style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">
<a
href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann<wbr>.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounc<wbr>es@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>parminder<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday, October
16, 2017 3:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Thiago
Braz Jardim
Oliveira <a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.b<wbr>r></a>; <a
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
accountability-cross-community<wbr>@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">acct-staff@icann.org</a>; <a
href="mailto:gac@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
gac@icann.org</a>;
GAC <a
href="mailto:gac@gac.icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><gac@gac.icann.org></a>; ws2-jurisdiction
<a
href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[Ws2-jurisdiction]
Jurisdiction
Subgroup. Draft
Report. Statement
of Brazil. Annex.
To be annexed to
the draft report.
For consideration
by the CCWG.</span></p>
</div>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Dear
All</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Enclosed
is the complete
document of my
dissenting opinion,
which now includes
part 2 as well (with
some modifications in
part 1) as a single
document. Please
ignore the earlier
submitted document.
</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This
is for CCWG's
consideration. Also
for jurisdiction
sub-group, assuming
that it continues to
function.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Best
regards</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">parminder
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
Sunday 15 October 2017
11:51 PM, parminder
wrote:</p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Dear
All</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I
fully support the
excellent "statement
of Brazil", which
makes the required
point very well. The
sub-group should
consider the draft
recommendations made
in the statement. In
default, the CCWG
should directly
consider them.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">My
own dissenting
opinion is enclosed.
It is in two parts,
part 1 is about what
was the group's
mandate to do but it
failed to do. This
part first expresses
support to Brazil's
statement, and then
makes additional
points, detailing
how there has been a
miscarriage of due
process, and thus
justifying why
Brazil's draft recs
must be considered,
in the required
elaborate manner.
Part one is enclosed
herewith.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Part
two will present
some comments on and
disagreements with
regard to the two
sets of draft recs
that have been
submitted on the
sub-group's behalf.
I am still to write
them, so allow me to
submit them in the
next 12 hours, which
will still be the
weekend in some
parts of the world,
and thus within the
deadline I hope.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Best
regards, parminder </span>
</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
Sunday 15 October
2017 06:43 AM,
Thiago Braz Jardim
Oliveira wrote:</p>
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<p
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all,</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">On
behalf of the
Brazilian
Government, I
hereby submit
the "Statement
of Brazil" and
its annex,
which are to
be annexed to
the draft
report of the
jurisdiction
subgroup,
submitted on
11 October
2017, for
consideration
by the CCWG
plenary.</span></p>
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regards,</span></p>
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</span><a
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style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann<wbr>.org</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> [</span><a
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@ican<wbr>n.org</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">] em
nome de Greg
Shatan [</span><a
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">]<br>
<b>Enviado:</b>
quinta-feira,
12 de outubro
de 2017 23:29<br>
<b>Para:</b> </span><a
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">accountability-cross-community<wbr>@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><a
href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">acct-staff@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">;
ws2-jurisdiction<br>
<b>Assunto:</b>
Re:
[Ws2-jurisdiction]
Jurisdiction
Subgroup Draft
Report for
CCWG-Accountability
Plenary Review</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">All,</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">One of the Subgroup
members
pointed out a
minor editing
error in the
document. On
pages 13-14,
there were
several
mentions of
the RAA, when
in fact the
language
quoted and
discussed was
from the </span><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN">ICANN Terms
and Conditions
for Registrar
Accreditation
Application.
(The reference
was correct in
the Executive
Summary.)
This has now
been fixed in
the attached.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Greg </span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Thu, Oct 12,
2017 at 10:10
PM, Greg
Shatan <<a
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Some minor formatting
errors crept
into the
Report when it
was converted
from Word to
PDF. A new
PDF of the
report is
attached. I've
checked each
page to
confirm that
the formatting
errors were
resolved.</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Thank you to Jorge
Cancio for
catching this
problem!</span></p>
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<p
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Wed, Oct 11,
2017 at 7:53
PM, Greg
Shatan <<a
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I am pleased to
submit the
Draft Report
from the
Jurisdiction
Subgroup for
consideration
by the
CCWG-Accountability
Plenary.</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It is my
understanding
that a
minority
viewpoint is
expected to be
submitted. In
the interests
of time, this
will be
submitted to
the Plenary
separately
from the Draft
Report.</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt">During
the
preparation of
the OFAC
Recommendation,
the Subgroup
considered an
email where a
registrar
declined to do
business with
a potential
reseller,
based on the
registrar’s
policy of not
doing business
with people
with Iranian
passports.
The Subgroup
also learned
that this
registrar,
which had been
registering
domains for a
number of
Iranian
nationals,
refused to
continue to do
business with
them. The
Subgroup has
concluded
that, to the
extent these
instances are
related to
OFAC, the
concerns
raised by
these
instances are
adequately
covered in the
Recommendation
already
without any
additional
changes. This
is not in any
way a comment
on the
validity of
these
particular
concerns. The
Subgroup will
consider
creating "<span
class="m_-5612520697617532562m_6113201911431764551m_5420771632834150265m-1922489801139394888m-1211245373740868748gmail-il">stress</span> <span
class="m_-5612520697617532562m_6113201911431764551m_5420771632834150265m-1922489801139394888m-1211245373740868748gmail-il">tests</span>"
based on these
scenarios.</span></i></p>
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<p
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look forward
to the
Plenary's
reading of the
Draft Report.</span></p>
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<p
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regards,</span></p>
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Shatan</span></p>
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