<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear Parminder,</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Please see inline:</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 11:59 AM parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Verdana">Yes, Jorge, your highlighted question says
it all.</font></p>
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<font face="Verdana"><span style="background:yellow" lang="FR-CH">D.
Should the IANA Stewardship Transition be unwound?</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">This represented the problem statement for
the jurisdiction sub-group, which got internally and externally
high-jacked to cannibalise its own mandate and produce
fictitious ones in its place.</font></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2">You are measuring the progress of the Transition/Accountability processes <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">by</div> an unrealistic yardstick with markings in miles, not inches, and with a clock that clicks way too fast. And your comments<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">, intended or unintended, sound a little </div>polemic against half the world. Yes, certain questions remain unresolved, the transition wasn't as dramatic or transformatory as ideally <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">fancied</div>, but it went well, the transition happened, we could begin to think of ICANN as more global than before. This is a global process with intricate concerns and challenges, facing a few multilateral actors from <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">all corners </div>alike who take time to develop faith in <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">this</div> new process. It takes time<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"> for this process to make process</div>. <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">But wouldn't take as long as it takes in intergovernmental processes.</div></font></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p><font face="Verdana">It is just a pity that even in the 21st
century some people/ groups do not value their political freedom
as one might expect them to, and are happy to remain dependent
and servile.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">What a dishonour to the visionaries and
revolutionaries of yester-years and yester-centuries who made
such sacrifices for political freedoms -- little they knew that
it will be valued so less by those for whom they make
sacrifices. <br></font></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2">There are as many or far more today than there were in "yester-years" and "yester-centuries"<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">. Are you implying that there was goodness during yester-centuries and that the visions and values of yester-years are disrespected or non-existent today? It would be grossly incorrect to think so.</div></font></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p><font face="Verdana"></font></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"></div>Personally, it hurts even more that people and groups from post-colonial countries are ready to stay colonised, if in new manners, even when they know that they do not and never will occupy a place in the US-led order equal even to US's</font><font face="Verdana" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span> </span>close allies</font><font face="Verdana" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span> </span>like the EU and some other, even as the latter are themselves denied equality and freedom in this case. </font></font></div> <p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font face="Verdana"></font></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"><font face="Verdana"></font></div><font face="Verdana">I know that</font><font face="Verdana"> many
will quote in defence </font><font face="Verdana">expedience of
practicality, and may be it does constrain some government members
perhaps (but still really much more could be done), but what
about those who professedly stand independently and directly for
global public interest, and have no obvious constraints? <br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">By not giving a strong and clear
principles-based view on the jurisdiction question, whether it
got finally "accepted" or not</font></p></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="" size="2">"finally" ? It is an ongoing process. And a open process. What stops the Community from taking up further work on improvements?</font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font face="Verdana">, this so call global
multistakeholder community has simply confirmed its
geo-political partisanship... It has driven another nail in the
coffin of a possible global Internet/digital order that was seen
as globally fair and just and thus could perhaps have dissuaded,
or at least limited, the new cold war kind of splits in digital
global order that are increasingly imminent. </font> </p></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font face="Verdana">
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<p><font face="Verdana">On the altar of narrow interests, short term
gains and expediency has been sacrificed the immense political
power of fairness, justice and equality, that still IMHO is our
best best, together and even separately, for each of us.</font></p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="" size="2">On the contrary, it is how you perceive the progress of the process. I think narrow interest are weaker after these processes than before. </font></div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Sivasubramanian M</div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p><font face="Verdana"> parminder <br>
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<div class="m_4039666126387815675m_-7573899182493030900moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 11 June 2018 08:13 PM,
<a class="m_4039666126387815675m_-7573899182493030900moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Dear all<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">I guess that this notice of inquiry may be of
interest to many participants in this group…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Kind regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Jorge
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="FR">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="FR"> InternetPolicy [<a href="mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Ayden Férdeline<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 6 juin 2018 10:24<br>
<b>À :</b> ISOC INTERNETPOLICY <<a href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Internet Policy] NTIA Notice of Inquiry on
International Internet Policy Priorities<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">The <a href="https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-rfc-international-internet-policy-priorities-06052018.pdf" title="https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-rfc-international-internet-policy-priorities-06052018.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
NTIA is seeking comments</a> until 2 July 2018 on its
future Internet policy priorities; I have pasted some of
their questions below. Those to do with the value and
effectiveness of multistakeholderism and the IGF might be
of particular interest to those on this list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">Ayden Férdeline<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">A. Does the
multistakeholder approach continue to support an
environment for the internet to grow and thrive? If so,
why? If not, why not?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">B. Are there public
policy areas in which the multistakeholder approach works
best? If yes, what are those areas and why? Are there
areas in which the multistakeholder approach does not work
effectively? If there are, what are those areas and why?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">C. Are the existing
accountability structures within multistakeholder internet
governance sufficient? If not, why not? What improvements
can be made?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:yellow" lang="FR-CH">D. Should the IANA Stewardship Transition be
unwound? If yes, why and how? If not, why not?</span><span lang="FR-CH"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">E. What should be
NTIA’s priorities within ICANN and the GAC?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">F. Are there any other
DNS related activities NTIA should pursue? If yes, please
describe.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">G. Are there barriers
to engagement at the IGF? If so, how can we lower these
barriers?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">H. Are there
improvements that can be made to the IGF’s structure,
organization, planning processes, or intercessional work
programs? If so, what are they?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">I. What, if any,
action can NTIA take to help raise awareness about the IGF
and foster stakeholder engagement?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CH">J. What role should
multilateral organizations play in internet governance?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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