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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Apologies but I am not sure I understand your email below. What do you mean by “defending due process”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> marksv@microsoft.com; johnl@iecc.com; accred-model@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What you just said is one of the arguments for the ones defending due process instead of an accreditation system. Would you prefer it ? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 17:19:000, <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">As others have said, this is the role of governments not ICANN. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jun 19, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">rubensk@nic.br</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As Michael and Kathy already mentioned, that simply isn't enough in the view of many. Sticking to that is a clear way to not make things move forward. The days of not facing consequences for data misuse are over. It's ok to have a legitimate
 need and use it with due care, but claiming a need where one does not exist, or getting data thru a real need and later releasing it inadvertedly cause damages. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BTW, you know better than most that canceling credentials usually only lead to a new set of credentials in another name/address, so even the disaccreditation penalty by itself is not a deterrence. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 17:09:000, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There is no need to change UDRP or URS in pursuit of a foolish consistency.  The penalty imposed within the accreditation and access system should be disaccreditation and loss of access.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rubens
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:54:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mark Svancarek<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Cyntia King; John R. Levine;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I've always assumed that determination of a civil or criminal violation, assignment of a penalty, and enforcement of the penalty were the responsibility of appropriate agencies within the
 appropriate jurisdictions of EEA, and therefore outside of the scope of ICANN.  The same assumption would apply to any potential future privacy laws created and enforced elsewhere in the world.  The only role I could see for ICANN is possible removal of accreditation
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">If that was true, then UDRP and URS should also be terminated in favor of executive branch and judiciary proceedings. We are building a system, and that system can have
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:26:57 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">This would be an enforcement nightmare.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Would there also be private, for-profit enforcement entities?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#0D0D0D;margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Would each entity be able to charge whatever they want?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#0D0D0D;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">What would happen if a govt wasn’t following the rules themselves - would they have provider contracts w/ ICANN?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Cyntia King <<a href="mailto:cking@modernip.com">cking@modernip.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>John R. Levine <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com">johnl@iecc.com</a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org">accred-model@icann.org</a><br>
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I'm a small business owner & this is daunting, to say the least.<br>
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From: Accred-Model <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:accred-model-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">accred-model-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">>
 On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl<br>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:48 PM<br>
To: John R. Levine <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">johnl@iecc.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">> Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 14:32:000, John R. Levine <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D;text-decoration:none">johnl@iecc.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D">>> It's great when there is actually an easy solution.  At least for the many US companies, law firms, cybersecurity firms, and others (and this a huge
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