<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>I believe it was the NCUC (Kathy, Farzi, Ayden, please correct me here) that went on record saying that access to non-public WHOIS date should be happen only thru court requests and similar due process methods. If you say that's only the role of governments, then it should be them arbitrating access to such data... <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">... you can't have the cake and eat it too. Pick one. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rubens</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 17:25:000, <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Rubens,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Apologies but I am not sure I understand your email below. What do you mean by “defending due process”?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">Marc H. 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(Shld-Chi-IP-Tech)<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" class="">marksv@microsoft.com</a>; <a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" class="">johnl@iecc.com</a>; <a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org" class="">accred-model@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Marc,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">What you just said is one of the arguments for the ones defending due process instead of an accreditation system. Would you prefer it ? <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 17:19:000, <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">As others have said, this is the role of governments not ICANN. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Best Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></b></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class="">Marc H.Trachtenberg</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Shareholder<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Greenberg Traurig, LLP<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">77 West Wacker Drive<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Chicago, IL 60601<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Office (312) 456-1020<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Mobile (773) 677-3305<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><br class="">On Jun 19, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Mark,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">As Michael and Kathy already mentioned, that simply isn't enough in the view of many. Sticking to that is a clear way to not make things move forward. The days of not facing consequences for data misuse are over. It's ok to have a legitimate need and use it with due care, but claiming a need where one does not exist, or getting data thru a real need and later releasing it inadvertedly cause damages. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">BTW, you know better than most that canceling credentials usually only lead to a new set of credentials in another name/address, so even the disaccreditation penalty by itself is not a deterrence. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 17:09:000, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">There is no need to change UDRP or URS in pursuit of a foolish consistency. The penalty imposed within the accreditation and access system should be disaccreditation and loss of access.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="880" align="center" style="width: 660pt;" class=""></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:54:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mark Svancarek<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Cyntia King; John R. Levine;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accred-model@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 16:45:000, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I've always assumed that determination of a civil or criminal violation, assignment of a penalty, and enforcement of the penalty were the responsibility of appropriate agencies within the appropriate jurisdictions of EEA, and therefore outside of the scope of ICANN. The same assumption would apply to any potential future privacy laws created and enforced elsewhere in the world. The only role I could see for ICANN is possible removal of accreditation according to a TBD process after such a penalty is assigned. (per IV.F)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Mark,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">If that was true, then UDRP and URS should also be terminated in favor of executive branch and judiciary proceedings. We are building a system, and that system can have its own penalties for non-compliance. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><hr size="2" width="527" align="center" style="width: 395.45pt;" class=""></span></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="xapple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Accred-Model <<a href="mailto:accred-model-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accred-model-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Cyntia King <<a href="mailto:cking@modernip.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">cking@modernip.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:26:57 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>'Rubens Kuhl'<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>'John R. Levine';<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accred-model@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">This would be an enforcement nightmare.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="xxmsonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Multiple enforcement mechanisms for ICANN Whois accreditation policy including govt agencies - potentially many govts around the world.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Could we implement standardized penalties? Or would it vary govt-to-govt?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Would there also be private, for-profit enforcement entities?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Would each entity be able to charge whatever they want?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">What would happen if a govt wasn’t following the rules themselves - would they have provider contracts w/ ICANN?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Unfortunately, this proposition sounds like an unmanageable, expensive & fragmented mess to me.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Cyntia King</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">O: +1 816.633.7647</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">C: +1 818.209.6088</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="xapple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:03 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Cyntia King <<a href="mailto:cking@modernip.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">cking@modernip.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>John R. Levine <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">johnl@iecc.com</a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">accred-model@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cyntia,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Just to be clear, the initial suggestion by Michael Palage incorporated in itself a mechanism, instead of relying on Privacy Shield. Perhaps Privacy Shield certification could be use to achieve some of its requirements in order to save for organizations already subscribed for it, instead of being the only option. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 14:58:000, Cyntia King <<a href="mailto:cking@modernip.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">cking@modernip.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Easy for whom?<br class="">I'm a small business owner & this is daunting, to say the least.<br class="">And there are multiple fees involved.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Are we suggesting that this should be ICANN’s enforcement mechanism for accessing Whois data? This would be on top of the accreditation & fees we’re already discussing, right?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">What about ‘foreign’ companies - are we asking non-US companies to self-certify w/ the Us govt?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">I don’t see how this solves much of anything, but it would certainly make accreditation more difficult & expensive.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Cyntia King</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">O: +1 816.633.7647</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">C: +1 818.209.6088</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Accred-Model <</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:accred-model-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">accred-model-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl<br class="">Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:48 PM<br class="">To: John R. Levine <</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">johnl@iecc.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">><br class="">Cc:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:accred-model@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">accred-model@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""><br class="">Subject: Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> Em 19 de jun de 2018, à(s) 14:32:000, John R. Levine <</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13); text-decoration: none;" class="">johnl@iecc.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> escreveu:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">><span class="xxapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">>> It's great when there is actually an easy solution. At least for the many US companies, law firms, cybersecurity firms, and others (and this a huge part of the group seeking access), they should "self-certify" to the EU-US Privacy Shield, via procedures set up by the US Department of Commerce and Federal Trade Commission.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">><span class="xxapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> Well, at least until the EU courts kill privacy shield like they did Safe Harbor.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">><span class="xxapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> Banks and non-profits such as CAUCE are not eligible for Privacy Shield (they're not regulated by the FTC or DOT.) For small organizations the PS rules are extremely conplex and there's a mandatory annual payment to cover potential arbitration costs.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">><span class="xxapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">> Can we back up and explain what problem this overcomplex "solution" is supposed to be solving here?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Having redress mechanisms for data subjects that have their data privacy rights violated. With great power, there must also come great responsibility.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);" class="">Rubens</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accred-Model mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Accred-Model@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Accred-Model@icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_accred-2Dmodel&d=DwMGaQ&c=2s2mvbfY0UoSKkl6_Ol9wg&r=YMrJoq_XrV38eL9v9Wsy5w&m=C6rbyBcYcpztIyrIYfDDdTIXulmnW8jO_U6aVmuUuNM&s=7MkFtsJuTNnVT99d-egcJuXxtbdgxZuz5wywFxgwf18&e=" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accred-model</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">If you are not an intended recipient of confidential and privileged information in this email, please delete it, notify us immediately at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:postmaster@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">postmaster@gtlaw.com</a>, and do not use or disseminate such information.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>