[Alac-sc-outreach] Fwd: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan - please comment

Sarah Kiden skiden at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 22:51:01 UTC 2017

Hello all,

This is an interesting discussion. Having read the comments, I want to also
acknowledge that indeed there is too much information. Getting people to
first get engaged in ICANN is the easier part, but getting them to stay
engaged is a challenge.

I find the beginner's guide as shared by Olivier is very useful. I read
through it before my first ICANN meeting. The information is still hard for
someone to take in at once (as Maureen mentioned) but it can be divided
into smaller bits. The ICANN Learn courses good as they are self-paced.

It is a dilemma! Videos are great but some people do not have unlimited
bandwidth and would prefer to save videos for later or find alternatives.
So a mix of text, videos, images is great.

We just have to continuously engage, never giving up. In most cases when
you stay long enough, then you begin to make sense of the discussions. The
catch is to get someone to stay that long.



On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>

> Great input Alfredo.. You should be on an end-user panel that could help
> developers who put these resources together so that they are more
> user-friendly and relevant to all end-users.
> Mauree
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Alfredo Calderon <
> calderon.alfredo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi to all:
>> Excellent points have been made by all.  Going back to my first contact
>> with ICANN as a face-to-face participant I would like to share my
>> experience.
>>    - I was impressed with the warm greeting by all individuals with
>>    which I talked.
>>    - The passion with which everyone talked about ICANN and the work
>>    they were involved in.
>>    - The huge number of sessions going on made it somewhat difficult to
>>    focus on a series of sessions I was interested in.
>>    - I had a great mentor - Eduardo Díaz, who answered all my questions
>>    as I left every session.
>>    - The great number of acronyms made it difficult to follow some
>>    discussions, therefore discouraging me from following the session.
>> However, I believe that with my background, representing a particular
>> academic sector of society, I could contribute to enhancing ICANN's
>> mission. It's been three years, by ICANN 60. For ICANN 60 I applied for a
>> fellowship and will have the opportunity to interact with many groups and
>> learn more details on how I can get involved in ICANN.
>> Having said that, I guess my biggest concern is that those of us that are
>> professionals, still working full-time with many responsibilities, but
>> eager to get involved in some Internet-related issues, or even, learn more:
>> ICANN does not make it easy for some.
>> Multimedia materials, short visual descriptions of each component of
>> ICANN, 3-minute video clips explaining what each Working Group, Committee
>> or Organization within ICANN does would be helpful. It is sometimes
>> difficult to find things in ICANN's World because "we the people - civil
>> society" sometimes have to "guess" what and where topics of interest are
>> defined or categorized. Once you get involved to develop some skills on
>> "how and where" to look for the information desired.
>> Some tools that could help are:
>>    - http://www.sparkol.com/
>>    - https://www.doodly.com/
>>    - https://plotagon.com/
>> I recently completed the ccNSO course at - http://learn.icann.org/p/ccnso
>> -onboarding and found it very helpful. However, it has some images that
>> are overwhelming with information and no way to drill into the details.
>> That would be helpful!
>> I agree with all that the resources are great, are in various languages,
>> but something is missing! How can we get ICANN's work accessible to more
>> individuals in a way that they can say "Aha!, this is how I can get
>> involved in ICANN and better serve by community from within this global
>> organization."
>> Just my 2cents!
>> Hope to see you all in ICANN 60 and ICANN 61 in Puerto Rico!
>> [image: photo]
>> *Alfredo Calderon*
>> eLearning Consultant
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>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Maureen,
>>> please find my answers below:
>>> On 21/08/2017 06:06, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>>> The guide is good.. but if its something we want everyone to make sense
>>> of we need to explain each section without oral or written language which
>>> is the first barrier...
>>> We keep saying that a lot of our potential participants are not
>>> comfortable with English and then we give them that booklet.
>>> Actually all of the Beginners Guides are translated in the 5 UN
>>> languages. It's actually the main point of the Beginners Guides, that they
>>> are translated.
>>> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/beginners-guides-2012-03-06-en
>>> I love those videos where an artist draws a flowchart as a visual to
>>> explain a process - no language but the message is clear.
>>> A new online guidebook could consist of a series of flowcharts that
>>> introduce and explain each process.
>>> By clicking onto the flowchart you would access the artist's
>>> "explanation" of how the process occurs, but no actual voice-over required
>>> - so no language barriers..
>>> I fully support this. The problem, in my opinion, is not the language.
>>> It's the medium that the message is delivered on. In a world where young
>>> people have stopped reading anything else than instant messages, we need to
>>> reduce written content to short paragraphs and add audio visual content.
>>> Anyone know a good artist?
>>> ICANN did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kFcxf8KAjg
>>> Also have a look at the explanation of the Trademark Clearinghouse:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZKzaj5mURo
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> Olivier
>>> M
>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> a response I have received during the consultation process of our
>>>> Outreach Strategy mentioned a comment I have heard on many occasions: how
>>>> do ALSes get their members involved in At-Large activity? (see below)
>>>> There is a beginner's guide that explains how to participate in
>>>> At-Large,  but it is more than three years old.
>>>> https://www.icann.org/resources/files/participating-at-large
>>>> -2013-11-08-en
>>>> And when I read the Guide I can't help wondering why this has not been
>>>> providing a suitable answer to all the people who have asked me this
>>>> question. Are we missing the target? How can we rectify this?
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>> Olivier
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan - please
>>>> comment
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:03:47 +0200
>>>> From: svg at milathan.ltd <svg at milathan.ltd> <svg at milathan.ltd>
>>>> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <ocl at gih.com>
>>>> CC: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.ic
>>>> ann.org> <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Olivier,
>>>> One suggestion I have is to augment the « Task Force on ALS
>>>> Engagement » section with a mention of the difficulties some ALSes may have
>>>> in explaining to their members how they are able to participate and helping
>>>> them to understand the basic At Large structure and dynamics so that their
>>>> participation becomes easier.
>>>> It’s certainly an issue we’ve had in the individual users’ org and I
>>>> think it would be useful to reflect this in EURALO’s Outreach Plan.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Stéphane Van Gelder
>>>> Chairman and Managing Director
>>>> *Milathan LTD*
>>>> *"Internet Intelligence - Strategic Advice"*
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