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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",serif">I tend to agree with you and also disagree.  Agree that there is need to outreach and shall have money to be used for this, but I do outreach in
 many occasions without the CROP, so CROP is not the only alternative for outreach.  At same time Onboarding Pilot was an way to guarantee that people that will start with ICANN (so Outreach is already done) will feel welcome in order to understand all issues,
 have chance to choose their way inside ICANN and, as such, remain.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",serif">I believe being the fund just one, it can be split between both programs. Once divided each program will focus on its goals.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",serif">Guess we all agree both programs are important. What is not correct and I agree with you is use the $ from CROP to go to ICANN meetings – there is
 no outreach to be done there. But for ONBOARDING is just the opposite, more work shall be done during first days at ICANN meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 08:39<br>
<b>To: </b>Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>'ALAC List' <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ALAC Subcommittee Outreach <alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [ALAC] [Alac-sc-outreach] Fwd: [ICANN60_Onboarding] Call for ICANN61 Nominations</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:#002E7A">I said when the CROP fund was used first for people to go to ICANN meetings, that this is a mistake. This program (CROP) was designed to make outreach for new people. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:#002E7A">Now that it’s proposed that CROP is used for the COP menses, I say nooo. No for the following reasons:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#002E7A">Doing so will minimize the opportunity for outreach which is the sole objective of this program</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#002E7A">The Onboarding program would be with no interest if it is for only one meeting. Remember how many meetings took the first pilot program (From Marrakech to Abu Dhabi = 4-5 meetings)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:#002E7A">We will end up with the ICANN org cancel the CROP program because we are using it for what wasn’t intended to be the objective.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:#002E7A">As for the selection of the Mentors / Mentees, we are supposed now to do it through the community. Since we are supposed to be a bottom-up decision making community, let’s take proposals
 from the RALOs. The final selection from the pool the RALOs proposed should be done by the selection committee (we have created a committee, let’s use it).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="color:#365F91">Tijani BEN JEMAA</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Le 22 nov. 2017 à 00:01, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Considering it's a Max of 3 persons (mentors/mentees inclusive), let me try elimination method with the options suggested inline:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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thanks for your follow-up. Indeed, the program is now already published on social media and everywhere. I did not think it was going to be publicised so quickly.<br>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thank you very much for your answer. The sense of my question is because this this program is already published in social media so maybe soon we will have questions about the procedure and so on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b>De:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
<b>Enviado:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>lunes, 20 de noviembre de 2017 08:51 a. m.<br>
<b>Para:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Maritza Y. Aguero Minano;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
<b>CC:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; ALAC Subcommittee Outreach<br>
<b>Asunto:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Alac-sc-outreach] [ALAC] Fwd: [ICANN60_Onboarding] Call for ICANN61 Nominations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear Maritza,<br>
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thanks for your follow-up. I'd hold off sending anything to communities yet, until we know how the selection process will work. The deadline for sending names to the Onboarding Program is 15 December so we have time to discuss the process before moving forward.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in;background:white"><b>De:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Alac-sc-outreach<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alac-sc-outreach-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"><alac-sc-outreach-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>en
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<b>Enviado:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>lunes, 20 de noviembre de 2017 07:31 a. m.<br>
<b>Para:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
<b>CC:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; ALAC Subcommittee Outreach<br>
<b>Asunto:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Alac-sc-outreach] [ALAC] Fwd: [ICANN60_Onboarding] Call for ICANN61 Nominations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">(added Outreach & Engagement WG & RALO Secretariats)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Thanks Beran.<br>
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So that's going to be two people being selected for the Onboarding Program thus 1 mentor & 1 mentee. I am copying the RALO Secretariats & the Outreach & Engagement working group as we need to discuss what our selection process is going to be for this. Of course,
 1 or 2 mentors and 5 mentees, one for region, would be a lot better for us; however budgets are not high enough to sustain this.<br>
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