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Dear Maureen,<br>
<br>
the ALAC had a session with CROP staff. Several questions were
asked. Several answers were given, but I do not recall that we were
given responses to the very argument that you make below. During the
meeting I also asked what all of this "ICANN support" meant for a
meeting, as we the end users are rarely ever told in advance that
ICANN is supporting an initiative or other. Plus I made the point
that the GSE budget is also being slashed, so it is likely that GSE
will support less events than it currently is.<br>
How do we get responses to this? What is the process to ask GSE what
it supports?<br>
<br>
To your question why there is no SO/AC representative in these
decisions, the answer is simple: these programs are staff led.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2018 02:41, Maureen Hilyard
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAGj=WWSCKdosjxjkb47pYXQYwzq+puAatXCWcc4dbAyrtcFe7g@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">No typo... CROP has now done a complete about turn
on its original policy which was NOT to include ICANN meetings.
Now it is "mainly for" ICANN Public meetings.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, "<span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">if
a RALO or eligible GNSO group has used at least one
allocation for an ICANN meeting (or ICANN-organized
meeting), it may use its remaining allocation(s) for
meetings that are assessed by the relevant regional GSE VP
as being directly and demonstrably related to ongoing ICANN
policy, technical or advisory activities (e.g. RIR
meetings). "</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Does
that mean <b><u>only after</u></b> a RALO has used one of
its three allocated slots for an ICANN meeting? What if an
appropriate meeting for CROP occurs BEFORE an ICANN meeting
opportunity?</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Why
isn't a representative from At-Large and gNSO included onto
the decision making team when they re developing such
policies so that we could at least negotiate something that
it is more fair and reasonable for both parties. This is
ridiculous.</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:26 PM,
Bartlett Morgan <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bartlett.morgan@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bartlett.morgan@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">"
<span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">The
new CROP allocates up to three regional trips to each
of the five Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs)
and each eligible constituency in the Generic Names<span> </span></span><abbr
title="Supporting Organization"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Supporting
Organization</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>(</span><abbr
title="Generic Names Supporting Organization"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">GNSO</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">)
– Business Constituency (</span><abbr title="Business
Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BC</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">),
Intellectual Property Constituency (</span><abbr
title="Intellectual Property Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">IPC</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">),
Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers
Constituency (ISPCP), Non-Commercial Users
Constituency (</span><abbr title="Non-Commercial Users
Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">NCUC</abbr><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font
color="#333333">), and Not-for-Profit Operational
Concerns Constituency (NPOC). With a few specific
exceptions as detailed in the new guidelines, these
allocations are to be used</font> <b><font
color="#333333">mainly for outreach activities </font><font
color="#ff0000">at </font></b></span><b><font
color="#ff0000"><abbr title="Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers"
style="box-sizing:border-box;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ICANN</abbr><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> Public
Meetings </span></font><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
color="#ff0000">in</font></span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">
the relevant region or official regional meetings
organized by the<span> </span></span><abbr
title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers" class="m_-8321981389775909201gmail-"
style="box-sizing:border-box;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ICANN</abbr></b><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><b> org</b>.</span>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Typo?</div>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="m_-8321981389775909201gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">--<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Bartlett D. Morgan<br>
</font><br>
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<div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 at 16:39, Dev Anand
Teelucksingh <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">devtee@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Read
the blog post :<br>
<a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/fy19-community-regional-outreach-program-crop-ready-for-use-by-eligible-icann-communities"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/<wbr>blog/fy19-community-regional-<wbr>outreach-program-crop-ready-<wbr>for-use-by-eligible-icann-<wbr>communities</a><br>
and the CROP FY19 wiki at <a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/pIRHBQ"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>pIRHBQ</a><br>
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