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<p>Hi Maureen,</p>
<p>I recall Benedetta stating and it is written in the Blog post and
the Guidelines</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(43, 44, 51); font-family: "SF Regular", "Segoe System UI Regular", "Segoe UI Regular", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -0.2px; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 244); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">if there is no Public Meeting or official ICANN meeting occurring in that RALO’s region in that FY, a meeting in that region that is assessed by the relevant regional Global Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) regional vice-president as being: (i) directly and demonstrably related to ongoing ICANN policy, advisory or technical activities (e.g. a Regional Internet Registry meeting), and (ii) consistent with the ICANN Organization’s outreach plan for that region.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(43, 44, 51); font-family: "SF Regular", "Segoe System UI Regular", "Segoe UI Regular", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -0.2px; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 244); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Benedetta Stressed that if there was not an ICANN meeting in our region we can use our CROP slots for a meeting that is in our Outreach Plan and that was approved by the GSE. The goal she said was to work with the GSE. GSE will likely be continuing to support regional and national IGFs. Chris Mondini has given money to the IGF USA.
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<p><span style="color: rgb(43, 44, 51); font-family: "SF Regular", "Segoe System UI Regular", "Segoe UI Regular", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -0.2px; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 244); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Her time in our meeting was far too short. She did stress to me that she understands that their may not be a meeting but that is why they have given a third option, to have a meeting is in our outreach plans and that is supported/approved by our GSE. She was stating that there is some flexibility and that if a trip is in our outreach plans and is approved by GSE it would be allowed.
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<p><span style="color: rgb(43, 44, 51); font-family: "SF Regular", "Segoe System UI Regular", "Segoe UI Regular", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -0.2px; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 244); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Olivier-- We need to ask the GSE for their outreach plans and find out from them what they will be supporting this year. If we had known this earlier we could have used a slot for the IGF USA since GSE is supporting it and it is in their outreach plan. We need to press our GSE people to show us their plans and discuss what programs they have supported in the past and will likely support in the future
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<p><span style="color: rgb(43, 44, 51); font-family: "SF Regular", "Segoe System UI Regular", "Segoe UI Regular", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -0.2px; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 244); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Maureen--I think when you are Chair you can make outreach more of an effort and push to get some one on that committee. You can ask for a rep from At-Large and gNSO to be included onto the decision making team when they re developing such policies so that we could at least negotiate something that it is more fair and reasonable for both parties. I do agree is ridiculous they seem to only hear from certain people, for example they had no idea that the At Large and NCSG are not allowed to attend the GDD or similar summits
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/4/2018 1:01 PM, Olivier MJ
Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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Dear Maureen,<br>
<br>
the ALAC had a session with CROP staff. Several questions were
asked. Several answers were given, but I do not recall that we
were given responses to the very argument that you make below.
During the meeting I also asked what all of this "ICANN support"
meant for a meeting, as we the end users are rarely ever told in
advance that ICANN is supporting an initiative or other. Plus I
made the point that the GSE budget is also being slashed, so it is
likely that GSE will support less events than it currently is.<br>
How do we get responses to this? What is the process to ask GSE
what it supports?<br>
<br>
To your question why there is no SO/AC representative in these
decisions, the answer is simple: these programs are staff led.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2018 02:41, Maureen Hilyard
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAGj=WWSCKdosjxjkb47pYXQYwzq+puAatXCWcc4dbAyrtcFe7g@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">No typo... CROP has now done a complete about
turn on its original policy which was NOT to include ICANN
meetings. Now it is "mainly for" ICANN Public meetings.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, "<span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">if
a RALO or eligible GNSO group has used at least one
allocation for an ICANN meeting (or ICANN-organized
meeting), it may use its remaining allocation(s) for
meetings that are assessed by the relevant regional GSE VP
as being directly and demonstrably related to ongoing
ICANN policy, technical or advisory activities (e.g. RIR
meetings). "</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Does
that mean <b><u>only after</u></b> a RALO has used one of
its three allocated slots for an ICANN meeting? What if an
appropriate meeting for CROP occurs BEFORE an ICANN
meeting opportunity?</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Why
isn't a representative from At-Large and gNSO included
onto the decision making team when they re developing such
policies so that we could at least negotiate something
that it is more fair and reasonable for both parties. This
is ridiculous.</span></div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:26 PM,
Bartlett Morgan <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bartlett.morgan@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bartlett.morgan@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">" <span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">The
new CROP allocates up to three regional trips to
each of the five Regional At-Large Organizations
(RALOs) and each eligible constituency in the
Generic Names<span> </span></span><abbr
title="Supporting Organization"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Supporting
Organization</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>(</span><abbr
title="Generic Names Supporting Organization"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">GNSO</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">)
– Business Constituency (</span><abbr
title="Business Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BC</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">),
Intellectual Property Constituency (</span><abbr
title="Intellectual Property Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">IPC</abbr><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:300;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">),
Internet Service Providers and Connectivity
Providers Constituency (ISPCP), Non-Commercial Users
Constituency (</span><abbr title="Non-Commercial
Users Constituency"
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:300;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">NCUC</abbr><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font
color="#333333">), and Not-for-Profit Operational
Concerns Constituency (NPOC). With a few specific
exceptions as detailed in the new guidelines,
these allocations are to be used</font> <b><font
color="#333333">mainly for outreach activities </font><font
color="#ff0000">at </font></b></span><b><font
color="#ff0000"><abbr title="Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers"
style="box-sizing:border-box;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ICANN</abbr><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> Public
Meetings </span></font><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
color="#ff0000">in</font></span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">
the relevant region or official regional meetings
organized by the<span> </span></span><abbr
title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers" class="m_-8321981389775909201gmail-"
style="box-sizing:border-box;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px
dotted
rgb(153,153,153);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ICANN</abbr></b><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><b> org</b>.</span>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Typo?</div>
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<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">--<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Bartlett D. Morgan<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 at 16:39, Dev
Anand Teelucksingh <<a
href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">devtee@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Read
the blog post :<br>
<a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/fy19-community-regional-outreach-program-crop-ready-for-use-by-eligible-icann-communities"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/<wbr>blog/fy19-community-regional-<wbr>outreach-program-crop-ready-<wbr>for-use-by-eligible-icann-<wbr>communities</a><br>
and the CROP FY19 wiki at <a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/pIRHBQ"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>pIRHBQ</a><br>
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