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Your report inspire me and i will write a report ath the end of my VSIG training (group A) and an article for our #Euralo #Newsletter. <br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">DoH and DoT... an actual hot debate that Euralo can create a little online workshop for newbees and less technical ALS and individual members... and affiliate. <br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">have a nice day. 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Hudobnik" <matthias@hudobnik.at><br><b>À: </b>"Olawale Bakare" <wales.baky@gmail.com>, "Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi" <Hadia@tra.gov.eg>, "Joan katambi" <joanhopek@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org<br><b>Envoyé: </b>Dimanche 27 Septembre 2020 03:55:23<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [EURO-Discuss] [Alac-sc-outreach] Report IETF 108 meeting<br></div><br><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Dear Wale, Hadia and Joan, Thank you for your reply ;-)!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Classic DNS is processed unencrypted via port 53, end devices are assigned an IP address of a DNS resolver via DHCP, which is then used centrally by the entire operating system. However, such a process has not yet been standardized for protocols such as DoH. In addition, with DoH, applications can now use other DNS resolvers simply and in a standardized manner than the classic resolver defined in the system e.g. via browser.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">The current situation means that manufacturers have been going different ways to still be able to assign DoH resolvers. Google tries to upgrade an existing DNS resolver on DoH servers in Chrome and maintains a corresponding list. Microsoft also wants to proceed in a similar way for Windows. Mozilla uses a standard DoH server in Firefox for the US.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">With a standard, however, the assignment and use could be standardized and the DNS assignment could then also be automated relatively easily. Various ideas have now been discussed during the meeting. One suggestion provides for a separate protocol for finding appropriate resolvers (<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mglt-add-rdp-02" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mglt-add-rdp-02</a>). For this purpose, a list of these could be kept and queried, similar to how this already works with classic DNS.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Another one is to use the DNS records directly and to store the resolver addresses there. For this purpose, so-called designated DNS resolvers are to be used, which are only responsible for certain domains (<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-add-resolver-discovery-01" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-add-resolver-discovery-01</a>).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Another one is that every website simply specifies its preferred server in an HTTP header, which should then be used by clients proposed by Google and Cloudflare(<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schinazi-httpbis-doh-preference-hints-02" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schinazi-httpbis-doh-preference-hints-02</a>). </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Finally, another one is based on Enrollment over Secure Transport (<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7030" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7030</a>) to roll out your own certificates to clients in the network (<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reddy-add-iot-byod-bootstrap-00" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reddy-add-iot-byod-bootstrap-00</a>).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Have a great day!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Matthias</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'verdana' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">_________________________</span><span style="font-size:8pt;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'verdana' ,;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">Ing. Mag. Matthias M. Hudobnik</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'verdana' ,;color:#9bbb59" lang="EN-GB"><a href="mailto:matthias@hudobnik.at" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><span style="color:#9bbb59">matthias@hudobnik.at</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8pt;color:#9bbb59" lang="EN-GB"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'verdana' ,;color:#9bbb59" lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://www.hudobnik.at/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><span style="color:#9bbb59">http://www.hudobnik.at</span></a></span><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'verdana' ,;color:#9bbb59" lang="EN-GB">@<a href="https://twitter.com/mhudobnik" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><span style="color:#9bbb59">mhudobnik</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8pt;color:#9bbb59" lang="EN-GB"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#9bbb59"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' ,;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'tahoma' ," lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'tahoma' ," lang="DE"> Olawale Bakare [mailto:wales.baky@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 24. September 2020 14:17<br><b>An:</b> Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi<br><b>Cc:</b> Matthias M. Hudobnik; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [EURO-Discuss] [Alac-sc-outreach] Report IETF 108 meeting</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">There are a number of factors to consider for DoH and DoT, bearing in mind the two different ports they operate. One major factor the IETF's Adaptive DNS Discovery WG may watch out for, as it evolves is the CDN (Content Delivery Network). It has gained so much attention because the majority of web traffic is served through CDNs. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards, </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Wale </p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 12:06 PM Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <<a href="mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Hadia@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">Interesting to know what they reached with regard to encrypted DoH and DoT<br><br>Hadia<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <br>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:28 PM<br>To: 'Matthias M. Hudobnik'; <a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [Alac-sc-outreach] Report IETF 108 meeting<br><br>Thanks Mathias<br><br>Hadia<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Alac-sc-outreach [mailto:<a href="mailto:alac-sc-outreach-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">alac-sc-outreach-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Matthias M. Hudobnik<br>Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:43 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">alac-sc-outreach@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>Subject: [Alac-sc-outreach] Report IETF 108 meeting<br><br>Dear all,<br><br>Enclosed a very brief report about my experience in the IETF 108 meeting if anyone is interested to read it?<br>I can highly recommend to check out this forum even if it is very technical - it helps to get the bigger picture of the Internet ecosystem ;-)!<br><br>Have a nice evening!<br>Kindest regards,<br>Matthias<br>_________________________<br>Ing. Mag. Matthias M. 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