[ALT-Plus] Fwd: [ALAC-Members] PTI Customer Standing Committee Withdraw request

[Alan Greenberg]

Thanks Mohamed. If they are actually "observers" and listen only, that would be a clear subversion of the original intent. If they actually can interact and participate as you said in your earlier message, it is a articularly poor choice of words.

Alan
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On February 24, 2019 1:13:59 AM EST, Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net> wrote:
Thanks Alan for the response, on the weekend I tend to be slow in emails devoting time to the family.

You are right, ALAC, GAC and have liaisons but later within CSC we started using the term “observers” and members to differentiate the full members ( direct customers of IANA ) from the observers/non-members ( indirect customers of IANA ).

Kind Regards,
Mohamed

On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:

Maureen asked me to reply to Marita.

I note that although Marita copied the ALT-Plus list, of which I am a member, the message never got to that list (as of now in any case).

Mohamed used the wrong term. We have a Liaison to the CSC, not an observer. The full Members of the CSC are two representatives of the ccNSO and two representatives of the GNSO Registry Stakeholder Group (the direct users of the IANA functions). In addition, there is a Liaison from IANA/PTI and optionally from each of the SSAC, ALAC, GNSO (non-RySG), RSSAC and GAC.

You can find the current incumbents at https://www.icann.org/en/csc/members-liaisons.

The Charter of the CSC can be found at https://www.icann.org/iana_imp_docs/41-csc-charter-v-v1. Note that under Membership it says: Liaisons shall not be members of or entitled to vote on the CSC, but otherwise liaisons shall be entitled to participate on equal footing with members of the CSC.

Hope this helps, but feel free to contact me for further info.

Alan



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From: Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll at ca.inter.net>>
Date: Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ALAC-Members] PTI Customer Standing Committee Withdraw request
To: Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net<mailto:mbashir at mbash.net>>, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard at gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
Cc: <ALAC-members at icann.org<mailto:ALAC-members at icann.org> >, <alt-plus at icann.org<mailto:alt-plus at icann.org>>


Out of interest, is this observer status unique? Are other SOs/ACs also observers only? Did we choose that role or was it set up this way?

Marita
On 2/22/2019 2:42 AM, Mohamed El Bashir wrote:
Dear Maureen, ALT, ALAC members

Back in 2016 ALAC decided to appoint me as its representative to PTI’s Customer Standing Committee ( CSC) for a period of 2 years terms ( ALAC voted decision here: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac-announce/2016-July/003236.html<https://bowtie.mailbutler.io/tracking/hit/24ba5a1d-b087-4623-8d94-70e2197d8709/d656e3e5-acf8-49bc-8ff4-adc1b4a7e150?notrack=true> ).

I was grateful and honored by the ALAC decision, after 2 years I would like to request ALAC to withdraw my appointment to CSC and appoint another member to CSC, my request is based on two main reasons which I shared with some of you privately before :
- my personal inability to actively participate in CSC after the 2 years period
- ALAC passive outlook to CSC activities might be because we are an observer only

I am happy to provide ALC replacement with any insights on CSC and support needed ( my previous PTI CSC reports are available in the mailing ).

Thank you

Kind Regards,
Mohamed




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