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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Manal, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
Thanks for your comments. Yes, the optional combining marks refer to
diacritics or aerab.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Manal Ismail
[mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dr. Sarmad Hussain; arabic-vip@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [arabic-vip] Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you Sarmad ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I agree with you that the time
is tight and that we may not be able to discuss everything with the required
level of details in our face-to-face meeting ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I hope we can try to progress as
much online as my experience with conference calls is not always very positive
..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>On a first reading, I've nothing
to add to the agenda below but I've inserted a few remarks inline below ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--Manal <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> arabic-vip-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:arabic-vip-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr. Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2011 7:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arabic-vip@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arabic-vip] Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>It was good to have most of you on the call today. As
per our discussion, here are the five items for the Singapore meeting. We
have two 1.5 hour slots for this agenda. This is short time so we
may have to skip or cut short some of the tasks which may take longer
discussion and bring them to the conference calls or online discussion. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Glossary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>discuss
the definitions developed by IDN VIP in the context of Arabic script<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>identify
additional items for glossary relevant to Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'>Manal: Indeed this is very
important .. I believe we should be clear in highlighting where the term
'Variant' is from other terms such as 'Confusingly similar' and 'Defensive
Registrations' .. will there be an overall definition at the end abstracted
from the different case study definitions ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Experiences
of existing ccTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Variant
related issues (need volunteers from the team who have experience in this
context)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'>Manal: This would be very useful
.. unfortunately, in Egypt, we don't have yet a sound experience in Variants
handling as we have not yet launched the Landrush phase .. </span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>List
known issues (here is an initial list from earlier discussions at ASIWG and
other forums: see Arabic script presentation at </span><a
href="http://svsf40.icann.org/node/22193">http://svsf40.icann.org/node/22193</a>
<span style='color:#1F497D'>for details and examples; please
add/delete/edit/comment)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Technical
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Required
combining marks – extra Unicode normalization<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Optional
combining marks - <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Same
shape in a particular position<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Similar
shape in a particular position<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Digits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joining
characters – ZWNJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'>Manal: Thanks for the useful
summary .. Does 'Optional combining marks' in bullet 2 above refer to
'Diacritics' ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>User
Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Input
method variation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bidirectional
rendering issues in applications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>General
rendering issues in applications – writing styles – Naskh vs. Nastalique, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Specification
of language table<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bundling,
blocking, reserving <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'>Manal: I believe we also have to
tackle 'Automated vs. Requested' bundling, blocking, reserving .. in other
words are there cases where bundling, blocking, reserving will be mandatory
implemented for security reasons ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Deliverables<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Identify
the list of things to do<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Volunteers
for various tasks identified<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Develop
any sub-teams, if needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#C00000'>Manal: I suggest we add
'Timeline' to the title above to read 'Deliverables & Timeline' and that we
try to locate the deliverables identified to a timeline we agree on and of
course fitting within the overall timeline of the whole project ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Schedule
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>frequency
and timings of conference calls <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>schedule
of face to face meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>September
(or earlier)? Location?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>October
(Senegal) co-located with ICANN 42 (finalize date(s))<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Would like to hear comments on these or other items, as we
all develop the agenda for Singapore.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I am also attaching some documents which have been shared on
ASIWG lists in this context in the past (see <a
href="http://www.asiwg.org/wiki/Main_Page">http://www.asiwg.org/wiki/Main_Page</a>
as well). This is get you familiarized with different issues already
identified. Again please feel free to share any further comments. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Dr. Sarmad Hussain<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Professor and Head<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Center for Language Engineering (www.cle.org.pk) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Al-Khawarizmi Institute of Computer Sciences
(www.kics.edu.pk)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>University of Engineering and Technology (www.uet.edu.pk)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>G.T. Road, Lahore<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>PAKISTAN<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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