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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Dr. Al-Zoman,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>See
Andrew’s comment regarding g/ccTLD distinction in the root. Some of the
discussion in the text has been in this context<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Agreed
about the scope of work being limited to root. Based on your feedback, I tried
to change the wording of the text (changing registrant to TLD applicant, etc.)
in the previous version. I am further trying to change the wording and moving
any comments not applicable at TLD level to footnotes (or just deleting them) in
the current pass. However, please feel free to suggest additional inline text
changes/suggestion to further clarify this issue. Please review the next
version 0.7 in this context<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>I
have added Hyphen as a separate code point as an issue for Arabic language in
the code point list as per your suggestion. It has also been added to the ZWNJ
discussion. Please note that neither ZWNJ nor hyphen are allowed in the TLD at
this time (even though hyphen is part of the A-label “xn--…”, it is not allowed
in U-label (just reconfirmed this with Andrew))<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alef
with Hamza and Alef with Madda are two different cases, at least for Urdu.
Thus, not all Arabic script languages would put these two in the same group and
should be discussed separately<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Let us keep discussing the issues
further. Kindly review the revised version and suggest where further changes
may be needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>First let me express my thanks to the excellent job that Dr.
Sarmad is doing … I know his job is not easy to conclude the team's work in a
final document that pleases everyone. However, I think we have (as a team) to
have a balanced mechanism in how to accept or reject comments based on group
consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have a serious concerns with the current draft of the final
report:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The team's
assignment is for the new gTLD … we should not talk about ccTLDs and give the
hints that the report should or may be applied on the ccTLDs. (Regardless of
that fact that some of us my come or work for ccTLDs).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The report may
contain some issues that are of some concerns to the registries, BUT the document
is solely intended for the TLD level (and hence our discussions and
recommendations). Hence, we should not dwell in that area without careful
investigations and studies. It is not the same to say the following sentences,
the implications are different:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
dir=LTR></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>even these issues
maybe of some concerns to the registries, this document is solely intended for
the TLD level</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
dir=LTR></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>even though this
document is intended for the TLD level, these issues may also be of some
concern for the relevant registries"</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>ICANN banned the
use of ZWNJ, dash, and numbers in the new gTLDs. However, the report biased
towards the support of ZWNJ even if it has some security issues and significant
risks to users from some of the Arabic script communities. The report does not
include the support of the use of "-" dash which is been used instead
of the space even it does not have any security issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>I have requested to
add the following issue 2 times (under Interchangeable Cases) and it has been
deleted without giving any justification:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
line-height:150%;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Courier New"'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Combining Hamza – All </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
line-height:150%'>forms of ALEF (ALEF, ALEF WITH MADDA ABOVE, ALEF WITH HAMZA
ABOVE, and ALEF WITH HAMZA BELOW) are commonly used in mixed. For examples,
ALEF is used instead of all of the other forms (e.g., ALEF WITH HAMZA ABOVE or
ALEF WITH HAMZA BELOW), ALEF WITH HAMZA ABOVE is used instead of ALEF WITH
MADDA ABOVE. Part of the writing “confusion” depends sometimes on how it is
pronounced. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>It is not enough to
say "</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>as per our face to face
discussions" while other comments get added to the document even if it is
not been concluded in the f2f meeting. I'm expecting to see wither a
comment is valid or not. Or it get discussed by the group and get accepted,
modified, or rejected by the group.</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hence, my previous comments are still standing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>-----------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>عبدالعزيز بن حمد الزومان</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sarmad Hussain
[mailto:sarmad.hussain@kics.edu.pk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 01, 2011 3:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Abdulaziz Al-Zoman; arabic-vip@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [arabic-vip] Arabic Script Issues Document (revised
version)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Dr. Al-Zoman,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have gone through your
comments and incorporated many of them. However, as per my earlier mail
regarding general principles, I have kept the sections you have suggested
taking out (as per our face to face discussions). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am circulating a revised
version soon and we can further discuss this version for any further revisions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Abdulaziz Al-Zoman
[mailto:azoman@citc.gov.sa] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 25, 2011 4:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain; arabic-vip@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Abdulaziz Al-Zoman<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [arabic-vip] Arabic Script Issues Document (revised
version)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Dr. Sarmad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Please find my comments and changes to the issue document in
track changes mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>عبدالعزيز بن حمد الزومان</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
arabic-vip-bounces@icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> arabic-vip@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arabic-vip] Arabic Script Issues Document (revised version)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
Here is the revised version of the issues document (cleaned version is without
history of editing, and you are encouraged to use this for further work),
following our face to face meeting. Please note:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span>There have been **significant
changes in the document, so all are requested to give a thorough reading and
come back with comments on this list if you feel something needs to be
changed/added/deleted<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:red'>Raed</span>,
I have not reviewed and incorporated the additional variants you suggested in
your mail in response to the first day’s proceedings. Could you make the
changes in the relevant appendices and respond back (highlighting the changes
you make), for incorporations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:red'>Mohammed
and Fahd</span> to get back with the additional items for user
interface/application level issues for variants<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span>Baher, could you fill in the
section on team information at the end<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span>I have not reviewed the section on
disputes. Could we get a volunteer to look at it again in light of the
discussions we had in the face to face meeting. <span style='color:red'>Siavash</span>
could we request you?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:red'>Manal</span>,
could you add a summary in the terminology section and add the finalized
terminology as Appendix D<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='color:red'>Iftikhar </span>is
requested to identify if we still have any aspects missing from out discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Could I request you all to make the changes in your assigned
sections and send them back to me, baher and Mohammed by this week (Friday) and
we will put it together and resend the final document over the weekend for
final review and formatting.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks all for your valuable inputs. We just need to
make this last sprint to the finish line.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<br>
Samad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ER dir=RTL style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>سرمد
حسین</span><span lang=ER dir=RTL style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Sarmad Hussain <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Professor and Head<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Center for Language Engineering (www.cle.org.pk)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Al-Khawarizmi Institute of Computer Science
(www.kics.edu.pk)<span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>University of Engineering and Technology (www.uet.edu.pk)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Lahore, PAKISTAN<o:p></o:p></p>
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