<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Brian this is the Skype reference Willie refereed to (I've also left in some additional chatter that is in context from the flow at the time) </span>(note time stamps are from my lappy so showing as UTC+10)<br>
<br> .... [5/7/2010 2:09:26 AM] Kieren McCarthy: Hope you've also found the Accountability and Transparency Frameworks and Principles - which staff built out of the One World Trust report: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/accountability/frameworks-principles/contents-overview.htm#overview">http://www.icann.org/en/accountability/frameworks-principles/contents-overview.htm#overview</a><div>
<br><div>[5/7/2010 2:13:14 AM] Cheryl Langdon-Orr: From the paper now being discussed (based on the One World Trust ) is</div><div>TO KICK OFF DISCUSSION</div><div>Accountability The GAP framework unpacks accountability into four dimensions: transparency, participation, evaluation, and complaint and response mechanisms. These enable an organization to give an account to, take account of, and be held to account by, stakeholders; and are a reflection of an organization’s proactive or reactive approach to accountability. To be accountable, an organization needs to integrate all dimensions into its policies, procedures and practice, at all levels and stages of decision-making and implementation, in relation to key stakeholders. [Provided for discussion purposes only, derived from the work of the One World Trust Global Accountability Project.] </div>
<div> </div><div>Transparency. The provision of accessible and timely information to stakeholders and the opening up of organizational procedures, structures and processes to their assessment. Transparency refers to an organization’s openness about its activities: the extent to which it provides information on what it is doing, where and how this takes place, and how it is performing. This constitutes basic information necessary for stakeholders to monitor an organization’s activities. It enables stakeholders to identify if an organization is operating inside the law, whether it is conforming to relevant standards, and how its performance relates to targets. In turn, this enables stakeholders to make informed decisions and choices about the organization. Transparency not only refers to the organization giving an account to stakeholders, it also encompasses responding to their requests for information. It is about providing stakeholders with the information they need in order to engage in the decisions that affect them. Transparency is not a one-way flow of information, but an ongoing dialogue between organization and stakeholders over information provision. (Monica Blagescu, Lucy de Las Casas and Robert Lloyd: Pathways to Accountability. A short guide to the One World Trust Global Accountability Project [Provided for discussion purposes only, derived from the work of the One World Trust Global Accountability Project.] </div>
<div> </div><div>Public Interest. The concept of the ‘public interest’ has been described asreferring to considerations affecting the good order and functioning of the community and government affairs, for the well-being of citizens. The expression ‘for the common good’ is also used. What is in the ‘public interest’ is incapable of precise definition as there is no single and immutable public interest. In some ways it is easier to make general statements about what is not in the public interest than what is in the public interest. For example it can be said that the public interest is distinguishable from a private interest because it extends beyond the interests of an individual (or possibly even a group of individuals) to the interests of the community as a whole, or at least a particular group, sector or geographical division of the community. However, even such a statement must be qualified because there are some circumstances where an individual’s private interests — in privacy and procedural fairness, for example — are regarded as being in the public interest. <a href="http://www.ombo.nsw.gov.au/publication/PDF/factsheets/FS_PublicSector_16_Public_Interest.pdf">http://www.ombo.nsw.gov.au/publication/PDF/factsheets/FS_PublicSector_16_Public_Interest.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/7/2010 2:32:06 AM] Kieren McCarthy: Just in case this is helpful, I would approach the accountability review by a) looking at the existing frameworks/principles/promises, and then b) looking at whether ICANN has met each (and how where it has fallen down, it can be improved) and c) whether those frameworks/principles/promises are sufficient (and if not, what new ones would be useful)</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/7/2010 2:33:22 AM] Cheryl Langdon-Orr: That is certainly in keepoing with the approach that the Evaluation Criteria WT will soon table</div><div><br></div><div>[5/7/2010 2:33:34 AM] Kieren McCarthy: ok cool - thanks Cheryl</div>
<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Also other refs raised in that chat space that we may need to ensure attention to detail on... inserted here so we have them 'on file' so to speak AI's may or may not follow that relate to them....</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>[5/6/2010 5:53:59 AM] Kieren McCarthy: Worth pointing out that Board passed a Document Publication Operational Policy at Seoul (<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-30oct09-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-30oct09-en.htm</a>). That policy asks for all docs to come with an exec summary. Not seen any docs with that summary yet. And not sure final Policy has actually been published on ICANN site</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:54:03 AM] Ginger(Virginia) Paque: @Sebastien... problem is... English is the most common 2nd language...</div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:55:28 AM] Sébastien Bachollet: @Ginger, yes but infortunatly it is also 1st language for some who get the power :(</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:56:38 AM] Kieren McCarthy: Ah - I have found the Document Publication Operational Policy as a pdf on the Public Participation Board Committee' webpage: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/committees/participation/document-publication-operational-policy-30oct09-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/committees/participation/document-publication-operational-policy-30oct09-en.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>[5/6/2010 5:57:10 AM] Michele Neylon: Finding documents on the ICANN website is a skill in itself </div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:57:57 AM] Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I think THAT itself will be a review recommendation making things / information *accessible* is more than just language choice and Exec Summaries</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:59:11 AM] Kieren McCarthy: I think a big problem re: accessibility is PDF documents themselves. If posted as HTML, it becomes 100 times easier to find</div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:59:23 AM] doriavr: this is true, the analysis is vastly improved.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:59:39 AM] Sébastien Bachollet: and to drill down</div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 5:59:42 AM] Michele Neylon: Kieren - it should be available as both - printing a pdf is a lot saner than printing html to be honest.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:00:06 AM] Sébastien Bachollet: no print be Green </div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:00:16 AM] Rudi Vansnick: it should be accessible based on the accessiblity standards defined for the net</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:00:16 AM] Michele Neylon: Seb - :)</div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:00:21 AM] Kieren McCarthy: @Michele - easy to create a simple CSS for printing pages. Click on "print" and you get a nice printable version</div>
<div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:00:24 AM] Rudi Vansnick: W3C standards</div><div><br></div><div>[5/6/2010 6:01:01 AM] Michele Neylon: @Kieren - doing that takes longer .. and html > pdf can make for some interesting issues ..</div>
</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Hope this helps... Also there was considerable interest from the community re the Common Pool Resources discussion and I have had this come in from Thomas Lowenhaupt*, I said I'd pass the information onto the ATRT perhaps we should ensure those of us at the IGF also keep a watching brief in this stream (at the very least) and I'm keen to discuss if we can as suggested collaborate in some way.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">"....Following up on yesterday's conversation about Common Pool Resource Management...</span><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I'm organizing a workshop for Vilnius entitled City TLDs: Governance and Best Practices. One of the governance options we’d like to present is CPR. Perhaps there's some way we might collaborate on engaging someone with the requisite knowledge in Vilnius."</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">*<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Tom Lowenhaupdt – is part of <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Century gothic', Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: 14px; "><a href="http://connectingnyc.org/about-us/" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 204); text-decoration: none; ">Connecting.nyc Inc.</a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "> you can find his Connecting .nyc presentation at NYC ISOC Chapter materials here <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: small; "><a href="http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1515">http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1515</a> and his ICANNWiki info is here<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><a href="http://icannwiki.org/Thomas_Lowenhaupt">http://icannwiki.org/Thomas_Lowenhaupt</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div>Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>(CLO)<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 May 2010 16:16, Willie Currie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wcurrie@apc.org">wcurrie@apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Brian<br>
<br>
I don't have any additional text although I recall some reference
perhaps from the skype input about staff definitions of
accountability...<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Best<br>
Willie<br>
<br>
Brian Cute wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Willie,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Thanks
for that. I recall the
group deciding to add a second paragraph to the one you quoted. Do you
have
that by chance? I will look at the documents as well to try to find it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Best,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Brian</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext">
Willie Currie [<a href="mailto:wcurrie@apc.org" target="_blank">mailto:wcurrie@apc.org</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:briancute@afilias.info" target="_blank">briancute@afilias.info</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com" target="_blank">olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com</a>; <a href="mailto:at-review@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT-Review] Work items</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brian<br>
<br>
I have the following:<br>
<br>
Accountability refers to a process by which individuals and
organizations are
answerable for their actions, decisions and processes on an ongoing
basis and
for the consequences that follow from them.<br>
<br>
Willie<br>
<br>
Brian Cute wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Willie
and Olivier,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Could you
forward the text of
the working definition that the Team put together during our session.
I
would like to include it in the Preliminary Report before we post the
Report. Thanks.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Brian</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com" target="_blank">olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com" target="_blank">mailto:olivier.muron@orange-ftgroup.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 14, 2010 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wcurrie@apc.org" target="_blank">wcurrie@apc.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:briancute@afilias.info" target="_blank">briancute@afilias.info</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:at-review@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AT-Review] Work items</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue">Willie,
Brian, all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue">I
rephrased the first two questions. I don't feel at
ease beginning the consultation with " Do you think there is a
problem...". I think it might be better to begin with a more
neutral question."</span><span style="color:blue" lang="EN-ZA">What
is your
general assessment of...".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue">I
added a general question on ICANN's commitment to the interests
of global Internet users, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue">Best,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue">Olivier</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="FR">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="FR">
<a href="mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Willie Currie<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 14 mai 2010 15:20<br>
<b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:briancute@afilias.info" target="_blank">briancute@afilias.info</a><br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:at-review@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [AT-Review] Work items</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian, all<br>
<br>
Here is the latest version of the questions, with a reformulation of
question 4
by Fabio.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Willie<br>
<br>
Brian Cute wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">RT,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Our most immediate work item is the draft
questions for the
Community that were drafted by Cheryl, Olivier and Willie. We have a <u>deadline
of May 15<sup>th</sup></u> to submit the questions for posting. Please
review the questions and post any proposed edits so we can meet this
deadline.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward, since paragraph 9.1 of the AoC
has 5 areas
of review (the Board, the GAC, public input, public support of
decisions and
policy development process), I suggest that we establish
“sub-committees”
headed by two members of the RT who oversee the work of each area of
review. The two responsible members would ensure that the review work
remains focused and aligned with the RT’s methodology and on time for
deliverables in December. The sub- committee approach would not
prevent
any RT member from participating directly in the work of any of the 5
areas of
review – it is intended to ensure organization and efficiency given our
the
limited number of members on the RT.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If this approach is acceptable, please think
about the area
that you would like to volunteer for and indicate that in advance of
our next
scheduled call. The Doodle for our next call is almost complete. If
you haven’t indicated your availability, please do so and we will send
out the
meeting maker and telephone bridge.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian</p>
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