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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Cheryl <br>
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For the seven languages the quote of $US 3,000 stands. However it is
important that the translators work from an English template that we
will send after the En version is set. It is this template process that
enables us to be so competitive on the multi-language pricing.<br>
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
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type="cite">Hi Ralph further to your recent provision of a test
survey based on the Questions to the Community from the ICANN Web site,
some feedback received from Team members so far and our brief
discussions at our ATRT meeting today; I've been asked to confirm with
you if the "quote" I gave them for the purposes of budget allocation
inquiries of $3000 USD (for a survey in the UN Languages
+ Portuguese) still stands (as our Review Team Chair Brian Cute and
ICANN Board Chair Peter Dengate-Thrush, are having further talks re
ATRT funding and budget this week...
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<div>To that end I've forwarded the original email with my responses
to some of your questions and where you mentioned the costs amount
(copied then only to the RT Chair and Vice Chair) back in May to the
full ATRT list as we will be discussing this matter more in Next weeks
ATRT Meeting (and you should know that feedback so far indicates
changes to the detail of the questions would be required) but more on
that after Team discussion(s) ); And most importantly to confirm back
by return email directly to Brian Cute ASAP that the $3000 USD figure
still stands so that this amount can be considered along with our
other potential expenses.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
(CLO)<br>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Cheryl Langdon-Orr</b> <span
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Date: 24 May 2010 14:58<br>
Subject: Re: sample<br>
To: Ralph McKay <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ralph@bigpulse.com">ralph@bigpulse.com</a>>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:briancute@afilias.info">briancute@afilias.info</a>,
Manal Ismail <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>><br>
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Hey I've only just finished looking at the first link and was about to
reply with => "yes this is heading in the right direction, what do
we need to do next?" reply :-)
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<div>For other matter raised see inter-spaced bellow...<br>
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
(CLO)<br>
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<div class="im">On 24 May 2010 14:32, Ralph McKay <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ralph@bigpulse.com" target="_blank">ralph@bigpulse.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font size="-1"><font
face="Arial">Hi Cheryl,<br>
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<div class="im">It's not quite finished but I just sent another
link to show progress.
In some places we made the text more concise as this will help with
translation but you can expand it again if you like. </div>
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<div><CLO> Concise is Good :-) </div>
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face="Arial">The survey could
be condensed further by collapsing many the yes/no questions under one
heading, but I am not sure this is wanted.</font></font></div>
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<div><CLO> you the expert here... </div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font size="-1"><font
face="Arial">Also in the final version we
would usually display each question on a separate page to avoid major
loss of data in case someone losses connection before submitting.<br>
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<div><CLO> that makes perfect sense to me... </div>
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I have not mentioned costing on this one yet. I'm helping out here with
the survey structure at no obligation for payment. However generally we
would create and manage this type of survey and enter all the
translations for about $US2500 plus $200 per language assuming the
translated text is provided. However we have been doing similar jobs
for ICANN lately for $US3000 and happy to hold that fee for this one.</font></font></div>
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<div><CLO> thanks good to know (I DO like a bargain) and yes
ICANN would provide any translated text....</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font size="-1"><font
face="Arial">If the same survey is repeated in other years with little
change then
we can manage it for a much smaller fee next time. Are you happy for us
to complete the management of this one on these rates? I assume the
paying client is your US office so no GST is included. I believe our
rates for this type of multi-language project are much less than
generally available in the market. Note it's <u>important</u> not to
translate the text until we send an english version template to work
from.<br>
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<div><CLO> Thanks this is also good to know... I need to take
the sample to the rest of the Team now (with the rough costs) we have
a meeting later this week... I note when I follow the links bellow
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font color="#333333"><small><font
face="Arial">Cheryl,<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.bigpulse.com/p9837/"
target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> to see some work in progress. See how
some of the questions have been condensed in a rating format. Does this
work? Not all questions can fit into this style. >>></font></small></font></div>
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face="Arial"><span
style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: small;">That
I'm logged on with my BP identity how do we show the others what were
proposing? Perhaps if Brian and Manal try the CLICK HERE link above,
and can see the sample that is all we need but I would want to have
the team "play with the sample so whatever we need to do to set that up
needs to be discussed...</span></font></small></font></div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font color="#333333"><small><font
face="Arial"><span
style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: small;">Yes
it would be US client so not GST, and you note on translations is
NOTED... I suspect next steps would be fine tuning the questions from
the sample to ensure the Accountability and Transparency Review Team
(ATRT) feels were asking all we need to then look to next steps etc.,
from that... So all I can have to put onto our Agenda later this week
(thus the c.c. to the Chair and Vice Chair of the ATRT as they will be
setting the Agenda) the better...</span></font></small></font></div>
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<div>Thanks again... CLO </div>
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